VikeManDan Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 hours ago, viking said: I'm really not sure why Vikings fans are so content with Thielen and Osborn. I think it's the homer shades because they really aren't a great WR2 / WR3. Both WRs have declined from last year. Is that really on them or a product of the offense? Here is the target share: JJ18 - 71 targets (52 catches, 73.2%) AT19 - 50 targets (35 catches, 73.2%) KJ17 - 31 targets (21 catches, 67.7%) https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets-distribution/wr.php?year=2022&start=1&end=8&show=totals AT19 ranks 10th in WR2 targets and KJ17 ranks 6th in WR3 targets per the link above (this does not include TEs). I'd really like to know what the hang up is with Reagor not picking up the offense. Does anyone know how many snaps we've had 10 personnel (4WR) on the field? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, VikeManDan said: Is that really on them or a product of the offense? Here is the target share: JJ18 - 71 targets (52 catches, 73.2%) AT19 - 50 targets (35 catches, 73.2%) KJ17 - 31 targets (21 catches, 67.7%) https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets-distribution/wr.php?year=2022&start=1&end=8&show=totals AT19 ranks 10th in WR2 targets and KJ17 ranks 6th in WR3 targets per the link above (this does not include TEs). I'd really like to know what the hang up is with Reagor not picking up the offense. Does anyone know how many snaps we've had 10 personnel (4WR) on the field? I don't think it's Reagor not picking up the offense. He's just not a good Wide Receiver. He's here to return punts and run gadget plays. To expect anything more is probably pushing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: Is that really on them or a product of the offense? Here is the target share: JJ18 - 71 targets (52 catches, 73.2%) AT19 - 50 targets (35 catches, 73.2%) KJ17 - 31 targets (21 catches, 67.7%) https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/reports/targets-distribution/wr.php?year=2022&start=1&end=8&show=totals AT19 ranks 10th in WR2 targets and KJ17 ranks 6th in WR3 targets per the link above (this does not include TEs). I'd really like to know what the hang up is with Reagor not picking up the offense. Does anyone know how many snaps we've had 10 personnel (4WR) on the field? It feels like Thielen and Osborn are almost too similar. I can see moving on from Thielen next year and targeting more of a deep threat to compliment Jefferson. But it’s not like Jefferson isn’t a deep threat himself, just doesn’t seem like the offense is really pushing that in this offense, hence why he only has 1 TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: It feels like Thielen and Osborn are almost too similar. I can see moving on from Thielen next year and targeting more of a deep threat to compliment Jefferson. But it’s not like Jefferson isn’t a deep threat himself, just doesn’t seem like the offense is really pushing that in this offense, hence why he only has 1 TD. I don't think JJ is a deep threat in the same way a guy like Tyreek Hill is a deep threat. He's a chain mover. A guy who works all over the field. But I don't think teams are scared of JJ, AT, or KJ beating them 60 yards downfield. Maybe if we brought in a guy like OBJ to be that chain mover, it would free up JJ for more of those big chunk routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Vikings likely won't be able to compete on the FA market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: I don't think JJ is a deep threat in the same way a guy like Tyreek Hill is a deep threat. He's a chain mover. A guy who works all over the field. But I don't think teams are scared of JJ, AT, or KJ beating them 60 yards downfield. Maybe if we brought in a guy like OBJ to be that chain mover, it would free up JJ for more of those big chunk routes. JJ has made a ton of big time plays 20+ yards down the field. He can do it all. I just don’t know why he’s not being put in better position to score long TDs like seasons past. Is it the offense? Kirk? Receiving significantly more attention this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think of JJ in a similar vein as I thought of Sidney Rice (although he's a light-years better version of him) in that I don't view his strength as being a down-the-field type of receiver. While he can certainly do it, his strength is in the intermediate routes because of his elite route-running skills. If you want someone to be a bigger threat down the field, they would need to find a different version of WR, because that guy ain't on the roster, unless Reagor can develop into that with a full offseason in this offense, as he has the most potential to be that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marshpit23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Heres our new TE. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshpit23 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, swede700 said: Haha you beat me to it 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Bye Irv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, marshpit23 said: Haha you beat me to it 😂 I knew I had to be quick...I did move it to a new thread though since it's so important. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, marshpit23 said: Heres our new TE. Thoughts? First blush: Love the player, but I hate how much we gave up. Never mind...I read that wrong. I love the player and trade! Edited November 1, 2022 by wcblack34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I’m fine with the deal. When your 6-1, you should be looking at improving your team, especially when there is an area of weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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