TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: Let's break that down 2013- PHI Excellent season 2014- PHI-Not nearly as good but still looked like a capable starter 2015- LAR- Sucked 2016- KC- Backup played a little hard to really gauge 2017- PHI - 2 good games 2 phenomenal games 5 quarters of not great So he's had a weird career. I don't know how you can look at these 3 games and say that it is a complete outlier. It is difficult to judge 100% what he is, but you can say his ceiling is Super Bowl MVP. It is all about whether your coach and your system is one that allows him to reach that ceiling or not. Chip and the Eagles should have had more faith in Foles, before replacing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, PapaShogun said: Chip and the Eagles should have had more faith in Foles, before replacing him. I think it worked out ok for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, EaglesPeteC said: I think it worked out ok for them True, but I'm talking about at the time the trade was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, PapaShogun said: True, but I'm talking about at the time the trade was made. Yeah I hated that trade when it went down as I did with all of Ol' Chipper's trades. That jeebus Howie came in and worked his voodoo magic to clean it all up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 21 hours ago, Vladimir L said: Try to get Foles on the brown Give up the number 4 pick he is better than any trash qb in this draft Get him Saquon Barkley and go at it if that happened I would actually destroy the city in excitement...that wouldn't be fair (or happen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I mean, I think we were all uncertain of Nick being THE guy when we made that trade, but even 1 for 1, I preferred Nick to Bradford, but we had to give up a 2nd and 4th in that deal too? I think Chip Kelly was trying to sabotage this team honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaponX Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Kiltman said: if that happened I would actually destroy the city in excitement...that wouldn't be fair (or happen) If we were able to get the Browns to do that, I'd help you destroy the city in excitement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Danger said: I mean, I think we were all uncertain of Nick being THE guy when we made that trade, but even 1 for 1, I preferred Nick to Bradford, but we had to give up a 2nd and 4th in that deal too? I think Chip Kelly was trying to sabotage this team honestly. It helped us get here...but god that chubby idiot We each had our breaking place where eventually him being like a fat little toddler breaking stuff in our house got to be too much and turned on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, EaglesPeteC said: I think it worked out ok for them Not for Chip, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, PapaShogun said: No, you have to able to drag a team of scrubs in multiple offensive systems to a championship in order to be "for real". Because logic. Ultimately football is a team game. Owner, coaches, Quarterback, offense, defense, special teams. Not many teams win superbowls with a terrible unit in any category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Man after reading this thread, if Foles does go onto another team and completely bombs like I expect he will, I can already see certain fans blaming it on the coaching staff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, JustAnotherFan said: Man after reading this thread, if Foles does go onto another team and completely bombs like I expect he will, I can already see certain fans blaming it on the coaching staff..... Well coaching does matter almost as much (almost) as the surrounding cast. Proof coaches like Jeff Fisher and Ben MacaDoo Or the opposite end of the spectrum Sean McVay and Doug Pederson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Foles isn't 30 yet. He can still have a quality career if he goes to the right team that really tries to invest in him, and doesn't give up on him (Chip Kelly). A few guys like Steve Young, Warren Moon, Rich Gannon, and Trent Green all saw their best days after they were 30. Like I said elsewhere, I think the Bills or Cardinals can make a play for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said: Well coaching does matter almost as much (almost) as the surrounding cast. Proof coaches like Jeff Fisher and Ben MacaDoo Or the opposite end of the spectrum Sean McVay and Doug Pederson I agree that coaching matters alot but Foles is getting way too much of a pass on here while the coaches are getting way too much blame. And while Goff and Wentz paired Sean McVay and Pederson did a good job this year.......it's been one year so it hasn't proven anything just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, JustAnotherFan said: I agree that coaching matters alot but Foles is getting way too much of a pass on here while the coaches are getting way too much blame. And while Goff and Wentz paired Sean McVay and Pederson did a good job this year.......it's been one year so it hasn't proven anything just yet. Huh? Man and his Staff just led the Eagles to a SB Title with his back up QB, LT, MLB, PR, K, ST ace. It's the Definition of Coaching Matters. I agree the sample size is small for both but there's no reason assuming their QB's remain Healthy, either teams Offense tanks in years to come. There both that good at scheming and "leading" Men. Something coaches like MacaDoo failed miserably at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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