The Third Rider Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: Nah man, you see, not getting to the Super Bowl is much better than losing one when it comes to legacy and career performance. I bet Marino is wishing he would have never made it to a Super Bowl. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, eagles18 said: e.g Lebron James. Brady doesn't have a losing record in the finals though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnygsm Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Only hurts in the sense that it didn't add another win to his total. Other than that, it doesn't change anything. He played lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmen Cygni Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Pats#1 said: Brady doesn't have a losing record in the finals though That's because W/L is not a QB stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows34 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Bradshaw, Aikman, Plunkett - combined 9-0 in the big game. Marino, Favre, Rodgers - combined 2-2 in the big game. That tells you what you need to know about W/L for QBs. TEAMS win championships. This isn't golf or tennis where we can directly compare Tiger and Federer with their peers. There are just far too many factors and variables in winning a team sport. Brady could easily be 7-1 in Super Bowls, likewise it's not a stretch to say he could also be 3-5 like LeBron or have lost 5 consecutive Super Bowls if Seattle had ran the damn ball and Atlanta hadn't crapped the bed. Brady has had the most successful career of any QB in the modern era (Otto Graham), but that doesn't automatically translate into being the best QB. The former can be measured, the latter is a matter of opinion. Personally I'd take Rodgers as the best overall QB I've ever seen. Brady would be in my Top 5 with Montana, Marino and Peyton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 It doesn't change anything. He's the GOAT. The only thing he can do at this point is jack up the amount of rings he's won to make him even less chaseable in the future. This one would have helped, but his legacy is already the GOAT and losing in the Super Bowl doesn't change that. Even if he pulls an Eli Manning next year in terms of performance, he's still the GOAT. Declining in the twilight of your career shouldn't affect your legacy at all. Also, people that point to rings without context as to determining career success are idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Losing the SB doesn't impact his legacy at all pretty much. Making it to his eighth SB and winning MVP of the league is still absolutely insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Pats#1 said: Brady doesn't have a losing record in the finals though I think looking at context is important here. I've lost count as to how many straight Finals LeBron James has appeared in, I think it's currently seven straight. Of course, context is necessary in that regard as well. But it's more complex than Brady not having a losing record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Carmen Cygni said: Like I said, due to Brady's greatness. Bill Belichick is also the GOAT, but for this run, Brady deserves majority of the credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 FWIW, Brady now has a slightly higher passer rating in his 8 Super Bowls than he does in the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Carmen Cygni said: That's because W/L is not a QB stat. He's the main reason for 4 of the 5 Super Bowl wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, showtime said: I think looking at context is important here. I've lost count as to how many straight Finals LeBron James has appeared in, I think it's currently seven straight. Of course, context is necessary in that regard as well. But it's more complex than Brady not having a losing record. I was answering with a quick response because comparing basketball to football when it comes to playoffs and legacy (single elimination vs series), just doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plat2 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I think it helped his career just a tad or how people view him a little bit...I mean 500 freaking yards 3 touchdowns and zero interception in the SB at age 40?!. Belichick on the other hand hurt his legacy by a significant amount. Also, I know its not fair for Brady at all but this loss killed any argument he had against Jordan as the GOAT of team sports...unless he wins the next 3 or something which I can't completely count him out on doing lol, GOAT NFL player by far though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DistantRam Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I have just as much respect for Brady, and the Patriots organisation in general, now as I did before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Plat2 said: I think it helped his career just a tad or how people view him a little bit...I mean 500 freaking yards 3 touchdowns and zero interception in the SB at age 40?!. Belichick on the other hand hurt his legacy by a significant amount. Yea, I mean this season he was the age that everyone says the fall off the cliff is supposed to happen. He pretty much blew that out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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