dawgdish Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 15 hours ago, bruceb said: Sure it is, since there are no non-QB "top tier premium players" in this year's draft except for Barkley and Nelson. I'd add Chubb, Minkah, and Ward to that list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 So is anyone else sick of arguing the #1 pick? I want to hear what people think about players that aren't named Barkley/Mayfield/Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: So is anyone else sick of arguing the #1 pick? I want to hear what people think about players that aren't named Barkley/Mayfield/Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Nelson. To me, here is who I'd consider at #4: Trade Down: My favorite scenario. I'd love to load up and draft a bunch of quality players that would help us in the secondary, for example...as well as 2019 and beyond (Derwin James, Joshua Jackson or another CB (possibly), etc.) Barkley: If he's BPA and the best player in the draft, you can't go wrong, even if it's a RB Denzel Ward: MAYBE too high, but if he's the #1 CB and as lockdown in man/press man as I think he will be, we'll all be happy. Here's who I wouldn't love, but I'm sure who I'd talk myself into: Chubb: I don't think he's better than Ogbah. I think he's solid, but he's not elite IMO Fitzpatrick: He's a great overhang/slot CB, but in theory we should have Peppers playing a comparable position Nelson: IF he is a bookend LT or Bitonio could be that guy, I'd talk myself into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 43 minutes ago, BleedTheClock said: So is anyone else sick of arguing the #1 pick? I want to hear what people think about players that aren't named Barkley/Mayfield/Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Nelson. The problem is you are arguing the same names at pick #4 as #1 less the QBs because we are going to take a QB at #1. Also there is not much to talk about outside of the Top 10 guys this year IMO. Very weak draft in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I know there is a decent shot at finding a back in the 2nd/3rd, especially in this nice class. There’s a few guys I like. But there’s something to be said for just picking the best dude when he’s available. Saquon at 4 or 5 is a home run. He’s a great back that will add an electrifying playmaking element to our offense, a fantastic backfield mate for our young QB and overall just huge name value to help change the perception of this team. He’s not Reggie Bush. He’s just as fast and shifty, but he’s taller and 33 pounds heavier. I’m all for the trade down if it happens, I get it for sure. But I’m certain that come pick 4, I’m going to be calling for us to take Saquon and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt27j Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I would choose Derwin or Barkley because they could be the best in the nfl. Ward is very close due to his positional value, our need, and match with ab and ross. Insane feet, explosiveness, and speed. Xtremely lucky to have 4. Take advantage of it. Acquiring a bunch of picks isnt going to do much good with the core formed and last years draft class looking very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Here is a mock draft update: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/nfl_mock_draft_2018_roundup_br_1.html#incart_river_index Here is the outcome I want most: "Trapasso sees the Browns trading the No. 4 pick to the Cardinals, and then taking OSU cornerback Denzel Ward at No. 15. He wrote, "To land Ward after a trade down is spectacular for the Browns, a team in need of a quality outside cornerback to round out its defense. Cleveland received this pick, No. 47 overall, No. 79 overall and next year's first-round pick from Arizona in the trade." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Would not be surprised in the least if we take Ward at four. Or a slight trade down. Looks like primary cb is second tier with secondary pass rusher at the fourth tier. This is according to a positional value pyramid by Dorsey: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I’m sorry Chubb, I would have liked to known you but you were just a kid err not high on Dorsey’s list. Hopefully we don’t have to face you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 18 hours ago, BleedTheClock said: So is anyone else sick of arguing the #1 pick? I want to hear what people think about players that aren't named Barkley/Mayfield/Chubb/Fitzpatrick/Darnold/Rosen/Allen/Nelson. Mike Hughes is the truth. Kids going to be the best CB in this entire class. Love Jaire Alexander and Isaiah Oliver as well. WR DJ Moore reminds me so much of Steve Smith he’s my favorite WR. Brian Oniel T from Pitt has a chance to be a true LT but needs some serious work and time. Former TE. Great movement and bend. Hand and technique needs improvement. Jerome Baker WLB and Billy Price C are my homer picks. Love both. TE Troy Fumagalli is going to be a stud. Pure pass catcher wish we could get him in the 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 17 hours ago, bosko1616 said: Mike Hughes is the truth. Kids going to be the best CB in this entire class. Love Jaire Alexander and Isaiah Oliver as well. WR DJ Moore reminds me so much of Steve Smith he’s my favorite WR. Brian Oniel T from Pitt has a chance to be a true LT but needs some serious work and time. Former TE. Great movement and bend. Hand and technique needs improvement. Jerome Baker WLB and Billy Price C are my homer picks. Love both. TE Troy Fumagalli is going to be a stud. Pure pass catcher wish we could get him in the 4th We probably have or will have enough draft capital to get most or of them and a 2019 #1, which would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 3:52 PM, bruceb said: Here is a mock draft update: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/nfl_mock_draft_2018_roundup_br_1.html#incart_river_index Here is the outcome I want most: "Trapasso sees the Browns trading the No. 4 pick to the Cardinals, and then taking OSU cornerback Denzel Ward at No. 15. He wrote, "To land Ward after a trade down is spectacular for the Browns, a team in need of a quality outside cornerback to round out its defense. Cleveland received this pick, No. 47 overall, No. 79 overall and next year's first-round pick from Arizona in the trade." I'd take that and trade up as far as I can with 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 10:52 PM, bruceb said: Here is a mock draft update: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/03/nfl_mock_draft_2018_roundup_br_1.html#incart_river_index Here is the outcome I want most: "Trapasso sees the Browns trading the No. 4 pick to the Cardinals, and then taking OSU cornerback Denzel Ward at No. 15. He wrote, "To land Ward after a trade down is spectacular for the Browns, a team in need of a quality outside cornerback to round out its defense. Cleveland received this pick, No. 47 overall, No. 79 overall and next year's first-round pick from Arizona in the trade." If you can guarantee they are able to get Ward I would be fine with a trade out of the top10. To me there is no way Ward lasts that late. He is easily top10 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBrownsman Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 hours ago, buno67 said: If you can guarantee they are able to get Ward I would be fine with a trade out of the top10. To me there is no way Ward lasts that late. He is easily top10 for me I think that would be a great move too. I remember last year going into the draft hoping for one of Jonathan Allen, Malik Hooker or OJ Howard being available at 12, thinking it was unlikely. All 3 of them fell to 12. I am never shocked with what happens in drafts. I could see Ward falling. Last year I thought Lattimore was the best CB, he fell to 11. 2 years ago I thought it was Hargraves, he fell to 11. 2015, Tre Wayens? 11. Theres always a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I wouldn't be shocked in the case of us trading down, just acquiring future picks alongside the later first since the FO is new this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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