Norm Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: We're screwed package all 3 QBs for a HC that isn't Mac. Gruden. We can run spider 2 y banana. Scheme those ****ers open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Packers doctors have been perfecting the brain transplant surgery on sheep. They're ready to go for it in humans. When Rodgers retires he takes over Kizers body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Without looking it up, who were his top 3 WRs last year? I'd be willing to bet that outside of Josh Gordon you probably couldn't name a single one. Oh I'm fully aware that Cleveland didn't have great talent at WR. Coleman was hurt a lot of the year and Gordon was suspended. Higgins is nothing to write home about. BUT Duke Johnson is an elite pass catching RB and that rookie TE from the U (name starts with a N) is more talented than any TE we've got on the roster. While his WRs weren't great, they had talent on the offense. I don't agree with the idea that Kizer couldn't keep from giving the ball to the other team because of the guys around him. QB play was Cleveland's biggest issue last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernpackfan Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Edited due to incorrectness. Lol, sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Randy Moss thread ain't got nothing on Damarious Randall traded to the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 hours ago, jontat83 said: I am beginning to think McCarthy the QB guru label perhaps isn't true at all. Seriously why? Because one 5th round pick didn't pan out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, SSG said: Oh I'm fully aware that Cleveland didn't have great talent at WR. Coleman was hurt a lot of the year and Gordon was suspended. Higgins is nothing to write home about. BUT Duke Johnson is an elite pass catching RB and that rookie TE from the U (name starts with a N) is more talented than any TE we've got on the roster. While his WRs weren't great, they had talent on the offense. I don't agree with the idea that Kizer couldn't keep from giving the ball to the other team because of the guys around him. QB play was Cleveland's biggest issue last year. Cleveland had a myriad of issues that you could blame, and Kizer was a part of those problems. But QB play wasn't the only issue. They went 0-16 for a reason. But let's put the entire thing in context. He just turned 22 years old, which means he went through the 2017 season as a 21 year old. He was put into the starting lineup as a rookie knowing he wasn't ready, and failed miserably. Is anyone really surprised? He was a project coming out of Notre Dame, and nothing that happened in 2017 showed anything other than that. Expecting him to even succeed was a lofty goal especially given the state of the Browns roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 More I think about it, I would have liked this trade A LOT more had we gotten Coleman for Randall. Would have made sense too if we move on from either Cobb or Jordy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, packfanfb said: More I think about it, I would have liked this trade A LOT more had we gotten Coleman for Randall. Would have made sense too if we move on from either Cobb or Jordy. I would have liked it more if we literally traded Randall AND Cobb for Coleman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hey, not sure if anyone has stated this or not, but per Jason Straetz of Packers Talk.com, Randall was a poison in the locker room. Many veterans wanted him gone after the Bears game. So they didn't plan on keeping him for long. Kizer and moving up in the 4th and 5th rounds is better then letting him walk after next year. They have a plan, have faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers Select Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Randy Moss thread ain't got nothing on Damarious Randall traded to the Browns. Agreed. The Moss thread just had speculation, anticipation and ultimately heartbreak. This one has all of the above...plus, romance, campaign investments (see URL), big reveal twists (draft pick exchange, Shelton being traded afterwards, etc.), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: I would have liked it more if we literally traded Randall AND Cobb for Coleman. I would have been okay with Randall and Cobb for Coleman and a pick, maybe a 4 or 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Cleveland had a myriad of issues that you could blame, and Kizer was a part of those problems. But QB play wasn't the only issue. They went 0-16 for a reason. But let's put the entire thing in context. He just turned 22 years old, which means he went through the 2017 season as a 21 year old. He was put into the starting lineup as a rookie knowing he wasn't ready, and failed miserably. Is anyone really surprised? He was a project coming out of Notre Dame, and nothing that happened in 2017 showed anything other than that. Expecting him to even succeed was a lofty goal especially given the state of the Browns roster. I didn't say QB play was their only issue but it was easily their biggest issue. Kizer made very little improvements over the season. He was making the same stupid decisions late in the season (2 TDs and 5 INTs in his last 3 games) that he was making early in the season. You aren't going to win many games when your QB turns the ball over 27 times. Time will tell but Kizer is MAJOR project. We aren't any better off at QB right now than we were last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, packfanfb said: I would have been okay with Randall and Cobb for Coleman and a pick, maybe a 4 or 5. I would have been ok with Randall for Khalil Mack too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I would have been ok with Randall for Khalil Mack too. You don't think Randall for Coleman is basically 1 to 1? Both 1st round picks. Both have "underacheived" to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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