squire12 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, cannondale said: “Most talented player on that defense but he’s a nut case,” said an NFL personnel man familiar with Randall. “He needs to be somewhere where there’s somebody tough.” So what the hell were the veteran leaders in Daniels, Matthews, Perry doing last season on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: That division could also be: Packers trying to win vs Packers trying to lose. The Browns were always trying to win. Really? You can say whatever about the vets on D, but you think guys like Brett Hundley, Jamal Williams, Michael Clark, Richard Rodgers, Trevor Davis, Jeff Janis, Lucas Patrick and Justin McCray, all guys with absolutely no guarantees of having starting or even roster spots in the NFL, we're trying to go out there and lay down some crap film so we could pick 14? My guess is they just weren't very talented, much like a team that goes 0-16. Brett Hundley wants a long term deal to be a starter, he played his *** off in those games and so did his WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: So what the hell were the veteran leaders in Daniels, Matthews, Perry doing last season on D. Also every player you named is way more talented than Randall. So is Clark, King and Jones. Randall was in there with HHCD and Martinez. A good player but by no means our most talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Packerraymond said: Also every player you named is way more talented than Randall. So is Clark, King and Jones. Randall was in there with HHCD and Martinez. A good player but by no means our most talented. Uh, McGinn just told me that a source told him Randall was the most talented guy on our defense though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 minute ago, NormSizedMidget said: 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Also every player you named is way more talented than Randall. So is Clark, King and Jones. Randall was in there with HHCD and Martinez. A good player but by no means our most talented. Uh, McGinn just told me that a source told him Randall was the most talented guy on our defense though! I thought Daniels was a tough big talking leader of the D? I thought the veterans of Matthews and Perry would be better at providing direction and leadership. Agree that those 3 are more talented than Randall, but as @NormSizedMidget noted, someone supposed told McGinn that Randall is the most talented. So which one is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Uh, McGinn just told me that a source told him Randall was the most talented guy on our defense though! Well now we know you or HtZ have McGinn's number. Cats out of the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Just now, Packerraymond said: Well now we know you or HtZ have McGinn's number. Cats out of the bag. He would probably use me as an NFL source of I made nflscout@gmail.com and sent him info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, squire12 said: I thought Daniels was a tough big talking leader of the D? I thought the veterans of Matthews and Perry would be better at providing direction and leadership. Agree that those 3 are more talented than Randall, but as @NormSizedMidget noted, someone supposed told McGinn that Randall is the most talented. So which one is it? Yes we have plenty of leaders in the defensive room, none of them wanted to be babysitters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: He would probably use me as an NFL source of I made nflscout@gmail.com and sent him info. "I talked to NFL scout Norm of www.firegute.com today to get his insight." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Really? You can say whatever about the vets on D, but you think guys like Brett Hundley, Jamal Williams, Michael Clark, Richard Rodgers, Trevor Davis, Jeff Janis, Lucas Patrick and Justin McCray, all guys with absolutely no guarantees of having starting or even roster spots in the NFL, we're trying to go out there and lay down some crap film so we could pick 14? My guess is they just weren't very talented, much like a team that goes 0-16. Brett Hundley wants a long term deal to be a starter, he played his *** off in those games and so did his WRs. Less the players, more the coaching staffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, squire12 said: So what the hell were the veteran leaders in Daniels, Matthews, Perry doing last season on D. 47 minutes ago, squire12 said: I thought Daniels was a tough big talking leader of the D? I thought the veterans of Matthews and Perry would be better at providing direction and leadership. Agree that those 3 are more talented than Randall, but as @NormSizedMidget noted, someone supposed told McGinn that Randall is the most talented. So which one is it? Reportedly, there were veteran players McCarthy met with who wanted Randall released. But the coaches stuck with Randall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddfather Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 41 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said: Reportedly, there were veteran players McCarthy met with who wanted Randall released. But the coaches stuck with Randall. My guess is because they had no options then... You know... Unlike right now? A lot of off season left. We will be okay party people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 it may not always be to the right team but kizer throws a pretty ball man. always look nice coming out of his hand. that OT GB INT was a top 5 worst play i've ever seen too lol. im sure that's been mentioned in here countless times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, jfinley88 said: it may not always be to the right team but kizer throws a pretty ball man. always look nice coming out of his hand. that OT GB INT was a top 5 worst play i've ever seen too lol. im sure that's been mentioned in here countless times. I forgot about that one lol, it's like he just threw a hail Mary into the middle of the field, not his best moment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Kizer is talented, but inconsistent. No way in hell he should have been starting aa a rookie. Maybe he'll pick up some good habits from watching Rodgers. He's more talented than Hundley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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