Broncofan Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Sashi didn't draft Shelton, Ray Farmer did. He hasn't been worth the pick but I agree I hate this move. Ah right gotcha on Farmer. I get all the Browns fans got excited that he started making moves. And recognized he overpaid but in the name of changing the culture / brand. The Randall trade a no brainer but man. Be careful what you wish for. This makes such little sense but especially more so in the context of what they just did yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, pnies20 said: I'll help explain. 1. Shelton is very average. Played well at some points but LARGELY underwhelmed. 2. Larry Ogunjobi outplayed him last year. He's going to be pretty good. 3. Shelton's 5th year option was not going to get picked up after this year. 4. Shelton was getting disgruntled. So basically we got a. Future 3rd for a player they didn't really have any plans for anyways. yep, he wasnt happy, his back up played a lot better in limited snaps, he wasnt going to see that 5thyear, and the browns get a better return value then Browns fans would expect. He is a solid 3/4 NT but the Browns are 4/3 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, Broncofan said: I get all the Browns fans got excited that he started making moves. And recognized he overpaid but in the name of changing the culture / brand. Be careful what you wish for. This makes such little sense especially in the context of what they just did yesterday. makes sense that he had no future outside this year and that his back up played a lot better than him. So why invest a year when the browns wont pick up his 5th year option and will leave. They traded him a year before he walked in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagles23 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Watched about 2-3 Browns games and didn't notice Shelton's impact on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Don't like this move AT ALL. He was instrumental in helping our run defense improve as much as it did last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Eagles23 said: Watched about 2-3 Browns games and didn't notice Shelton's impact on the field Shelton doesn't put up flashy individual stats, but Cleveland's run defense was one of the best in the league last year and Shelton was a big reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, DawgX said: Shelton doesn't put up flashy individual stats, but Cleveland's run defense was one of the best in the league last year and Shelton was a big reason why. Ogunjobi was better than Shelton last year. He should have a huge season being the starter now instead of the back up. Browns defense improved because depth was greathly improved and that the Browns switched from a 3/4 to a 4/3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, buno67 said: Ogunjobi was better than Shelton last year. He should have a huge season being the starter now instead of the back up. Browns defense improved because depth was greathly improved and that the Browns switched from a 3/4 to a 4/3. Shelton isnt making plays like this as the UT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Was he really that bad? They practically cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 This definitely makes up for missing out on Bennett. Shelton's younger and actually had a slightly higher PFF score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: Shelton isnt making plays like this as the UT But Shelton is a NT not UT so how is that relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Didn't realize he played so little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Was he really that bad? They practically cut him I'm not a fan of the trade but I'd hardly say getting a 2019 3rd round pick is "practically cutting him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Broncofan said: Ah right gotcha on Farmer. I get all the Browns fans got excited that he started making moves. And recognized he overpaid but in the name of changing the culture / brand. The Randall trade a no brainer but man. Be careful what you wish for. This makes such little sense but especially more so in the context of what they just did yesterday. I'm good for sending away some.of our superfluous draft picks for some proven players given where we are at with our team. I'm not as good with the opposite. I get the arguments here why it made sense but I'd honestly rather just let Shelton play 1 more year keeping our LBs clean than lose him to swap a 5th this year and get a 3rd next. It's too marginal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Didn't realize he played so little. His size and endurance basically necessitates he plays that little no matter the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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