Jeezla Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Da'ron Payne or Vita Vea 4th overall? There's no telling how this draft plays out with Tyrod in the fold now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, mse326 said: But Shelton is a NT not UT so how is that relevant? With the Browns, Shelton was playing the under Technique in their 4/3 scheme. He was never playing a NT for williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappa13004 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Da'ron Payne or Vita Vea 4th overall? Maybe if they trade down from the #4 to the early teens. Or think BJ.Hill in the 2nd or Nnadi in the 3rd. Or just let Ogunjobi and Coley play, add someone late.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Da'ron Payne or Vita Vea 4th overall? There's no telling how this draft plays out with Tyrod in the fold now Tyrod isnt stopping them from drafting a QB #1 or #4 unless they come to terms with a big contract ext, which I dont see happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Da'ron Payne or Vita Vea 4th overall? There's no telling how this draft plays out with Tyrod in the fold now Hmm, I doubt the arrival of Taylor changes Cleveland's draft strategy that much. He's not the long-term answer so there's no reason why they shouldn't go for a QB at #1. What happens with pick #4 is still very much up in the air, though. There's lots of different ways we could go with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 1 minute ago, buno67 said: With the Browns, Shelton was playing the under Technique in their 4/3 scheme. He was never playing a NT for williams So who played NT? And why is anyone dumb enough to play Shelton as a UT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Da'ron Payne or Vita Vea 4th overall? There's no telling how this draft plays out with Tyrod in the fold now Barkley at one and and Mayfield at four sounds better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, bucsfan333 said: Barkley at one and and Mayfield at four sounds better. I agree, but...Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, mse326 said: But Shelton is a NT not UT so how is that relevant? I think his point should’ve been more along the lines of “Shelton doesn’t make plays.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wow, giving away one of their better players for pennies. Unreal. Are they going into full tank mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, pnies20 said: I think his point should’ve been more along the lines of “Shelton doesn’t make plays.” But that isn't a NT's job. His job is to take up blockers to allow the DE or UT or Linebackers to make the plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I'm good for sending away some.of our superfluous draft picks for some proven players given where we are at with our team. I'm not as good with the opposite. I get the arguments here why it made sense but I'd honestly rather just let Shelton play 1 more year keeping our LBs clean than lose him to swap a 5th this year and get a 3rd next. It's too marginal. Especially given what Dorsey is doing. I'm on record with my misgivings about the Taylor deal, and I think he overpaid to get Landry when MIA was in a barrel - but I can understand his wish to win-now, and re-establish the culture/brand of the team. Shelton's value may be minimal, but this return is just as, if not more so. If Ogunjobi goes down....that pick upgrade won't seem nearly as important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioG Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, mse326 said: So who played NT? And why is anyone dumb enough to play Shelton as a UT? Well Gregg Williams is also the coach who thought Jabrill Peppers was a FS and should be lined up 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage every play. He aslo felt our CBs werent good in press so every single play they were giving 10 yard cushions. Even on 3rd and 4s..... And our stating DTs were rotating but Shelton did occupy multiple blockers so I think he was a NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Just now, ohiogenius said: Well Gregg Williams is also the coach who thought Jabrill Peppers was a FS and should be lined up 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage every play. He aslo felt our CBs werent good in press so every single play they were giving 10 yard cushions. Even on 3rd and 4s..... And our stating DTs were rotating but Shelton did occupy multiple blockers so I think he was a NT. That's what I thought. And that means there really isn't any problem playing him with Ogunjobi. In fact I think it's preferable if you want to be aggressive. Be aggressive with 3 lineman and have 1 to hold some blockers so linebackers are clean and can make plays especially in the run game. If you just throw everyone forward you run defense suffers. I didn't like the Taylor move for that price, but understood it. Liked the other 2 he made yesterday. This one I don't get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, buno67 said: With the Browns, Shelton was playing the under Technique in their 4/3 scheme. He was never playing a NT for williams Wait, is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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