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5 hours ago, DaWg_LB. said:

Me personally....I want to see CB and WR addressed in the first round.....spend one of our 2nd's on Royce Freeman from Oregon.....my personal favorite back coming our this year....No disrespect to Saquan Barkley or Guice from LSU......

Disgusting! Why take Royce Freeman in the 2nd round when we could take him in the 5th? He reminds me of that bum that the Titans drafted in the 2nd round 3-4 years ago.

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14 hours ago, BleedTheClock said:

Disgusting! Why take Royce Freeman in the 2nd round when we could take him in the 5th? He reminds me of that bum that the Titans drafted in the 2nd round 3-4 years ago.

I respect your take on my opinion.....

But I completely disagree with your response there are some HUGE differences.....The guy your talking about is Chris Henry.....Chris Henry was never a starter...and Royce Freeman has had a 2 game stretch that was more yards then the Combine Star had in his whole Career....Freeman can run the Ball.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Henry_(running_back)

http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/2006/4/11/207919093.aspx

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/royce-freeman-1.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAlA1ox-QB4

After taking a solid assessment of the facts, I hope you will at least reconsider opinion changes just a bit.

To me he's like a faster Jonathon Stewart....with better agility and hands...

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Give me a franchise QB so we can become a playoff contender and even a SB contender. We will have to finish top 2 in the draft, but that is the likely scenario anyways. The odds of Kizer actually becoming a franchise QB is less than 6% and I simply do not like those odds. Banking on odds like that is for losers and I am tired of loosing.

To think, I started out as a Browns' fan watching Jimmy Brown's whole career and now, in my old age, I have to put up with this horrendous team.

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38 minutes ago, Iamcanadian said:

Give me a franchise QB so we can become a playoff contender and even a SB contender. We will have to finish top 2 in the draft, but that is the likely scenario anyways. The odds of Kizer actually becoming a franchise QB is less than 6% and I simply do not like those odds. Banking on odds like that is for losers and I am tired of loosing.

To think, I started out as a Browns' fan watching Jimmy Brown's whole career and now, in my old age, I have to put up with this horrendous team.

There is also an 87 percent chance that your percentage is wrong and just made up so at least you have that going for ya.

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3 hours ago, DaWg_LB. said:

I respect your take on my opinion.....

But I completely disagree with your response there are some HUGE differences.....The guy your talking about is Chris Henry.....Chris Henry was never a starter...and Royce Freeman has had a 2 game stretch that was more yards then the Combine Star had in his whole Career....Freeman can run the Ball.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Henry_(running_back)

http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/2006/4/11/207919093.aspx

VS

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/royce-freeman-1.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAlA1ox-QB4

After taking a solid assessment of the facts, I hope you will at least reconsider opinion changes just a bit.

To me he's like a faster Jonathon Stewart....with better agility and hands...

I was talking about Bishop Sankey. Freeman is big, but he doesn't play big at all.

 

I respect the agility and vision of Freeman, but in the NFL you need to have some special traits. I don't think he has any great physical tools. People point to his size, but he doesn't run nearly as strong as guys 20 pounds lighter than him. People point to agility, but I see a dude that cuts all over the place and takes forever to get his momentum going again. I want to like him, but he just doesn't provide anything that excites me. He's not terrible, but I don't ever see him being the bell cow for a team. So taking him in the early 2nd round would be a travesty IMO.

I watched a ton of film on him last year to confirm my viewpoint and I stand by it. I also don't like Nick Chubb from Georgia. Two guys I am basically on an island all by myself hating.

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On 9/14/2017 at 1:27 PM, BleedTheClock said:

I was talking about Bishop Sankey. Freeman is big, but he doesn't play big at all.

 

I respect the agility and vision of Freeman, but in the NFL you need to have some special traits. I don't think he has any great physical tools. People point to his size, but he doesn't run nearly as strong as guys 20 pounds lighter than him. People point to agility, but I see a dude that cuts all over the place and takes forever to get his momentum going again. I want to like him, but he just doesn't provide anything that excites me. He's not terrible, but I don't ever see him being the bell cow for a team. So taking him in the early 2nd round would be a travesty IMO.

I watched a ton of film on him last year to confirm my viewpoint and I stand by it. I also don't like Nick Chubb from Georgia. Two guys I am basically on an island all by myself hating.

My apologies, I could have SWORE you said he reminds you out of the kid the Kid that Tenn drafted in the 2nd round our of Arizona a few years ago....hence why I listed Chris Henry...as Bishop Sanky went to Washington........both are Pac-10 backs...but Sanky was 5'9 209lbs....Royce Freeman is 5'11 1/2 239....so your talking about a back that is the same speed except 2 1/2 taller and 30lbs heavier.....that's the same difference between a starting RB weighing 190lbs and 220lbs IMO....

Also I don't disrespect that you watched a lot of film on him last year....I have been watching Freeman since his Freshman year (Actually saw him play a game in HS while he was at Imperial...) but you'd be watching 2016 the year in which he had a nagging knee injury most of the season...after the Nebraska game....he missed a couple of games and really wasnt himself...go back and watch his Fresh and Soph tape and what he does this year (while healthy) to get a more accurate view IMO...

COMPLETLY different type of backs IMO

Nick Chubb is also one of my favorite backs.....I need to see how he bounced back from injury though....he looked OK against ND....but I wasnt watching closely...(also Nicks Cousin Bradley has been one of my Favorite DE's coming out this year since last season.....North Carolina State)

 

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On 8/17/2017 at 1:20 PM, cattleman78 said:

Trey Adams of Washington is another off. tackle to watch for.

 

Trey Adams is probably going to be a top 5 pick. 

 

I hope the browns owns can get 

 

1. trey brown

1. Saquon Barkley

trade up into the first and take a talented CB that slips sort of like the peppers pick.

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