JaguarCrazy2832 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Curious of the conditions on that 5th. I am still in awe of this trade. If Chicago's offense takes the next step they can make the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Buc Ball said: One thing that shouldn’t be forgotten in all this is that Gruden is trash at drafting, so what the Raiders actually got in return for Mack is a bit moot. Also, IIRC didn't Gruden notoriously take Monte Kiffin's ability to take guys that were undervalued by the rest of the league (at the time) because of lack of prototypical size and scheme them into a top-flight defense? Hubris has always been his Achilles heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daineraider Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Yep, Bears win this one for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Forge said: Allen was a first team all pro with 15 sacks his last year in KC. Pretty sure he was a year younger and had more career sacks at the time. Overall Mack was better, but same caliber, yes Memory was foggy. Thanks for the reminder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 GOD DAMMIT TODAY SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 This is a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 RIP to the Raiders. Back to the basement you go with that moron owner and coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, RaidersAreOne said: GOD DAMMIT TODAY SUCKS. I'm so sorry dude - I legit feel your frustrations. Nobody deserves this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Raiders just got bent over by Gruden and the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankWilliams Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, RaidersAreOne said: GOD DAMMIT TODAY SUCKS. Wow, I do not blame Raiders fans for being super pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, ET80 said: The Raiders GAVE UP a 2nd too!? What the holy hell!? Let's not ignore that 3rd round pick that the Bears gave up as well...but I'm actually curious to see how those 2020 picks add up. Let's just say that the '19 6th for '20 5th seems like an even swap. For simplicity's sake, I'm going to ignore the depression of future picks but assuming every pick is the last pick of the round, the Bears dealt the 32nd pick (590 points) and 96th pick (116) while the Raiders deal the 64th pick (270). That means the Raiders net gain was 436 points, which is roughly the value of a mid-2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACO Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: Oh, man. This trade is even better for Chicago than I originally thought. Jesus. Right?! They saw the terms and couldn't agree faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Poor Oakland. Just Poor Oakland. Where is the precedent for this? An elite player in his prime, with no question marks, gets traded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFM18 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: Poor Oakland. Just Poor Oakland. Probably can't pack them off to Vegas quick enough right now. (Gruden & Reggie that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNBlackFan Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Kip Smithers said: Poor Oakland. Just Poor Oakland. This will go down as one of the worst days in Raiders history... Jon Gruden is a mix of old decrepit Al Davis and Josh McDaniels ...this is straight sabotage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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