Danger Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Dak's passer rating last night on throws beyond 10 yards was somewhere between 52-56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MKnight82 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I'm really torn on who to root for in Dallas vs. Philly this weekend: Pro Dallas: Helps the Redskins in the division, keeps the Dallas fans hopes alive a bit longer so their inevitable collapse late in the season is more heart wrenching, could make the Dallas front office offer Dak a foolish contract extension, could save Garrett's job. Pro Philly: Basically finishes Dallas' season, get to see the hilarity of Dallas fans and possibly front office/coaching staff imploding mid-season. God its tough idk what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: I'm really torn on who to root for in Dallas vs. Philly this weekend: Pro Dallas: Helps the Redskins in the division, keeps the Dallas fans hopes alive a bit longer so their inevitable collapse late in the season is more heart wrenching, could make the Dallas front office offer Dak a foolish contract extension, could save Garrett's job. hell, that's even compelling to me But doesn't really matter....Dallas would keep Garrett and extend dak even if they finished 4-12 (they aren't bad enough to lose to the Giants, right?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 But hey they can just walk away after his rookie deal? It's bad enough that even Skip is off the wagon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Some juicy Dak stats. Since 2017, the Cowboys 14.8% conversion rate on 3rd & 8+ yards is the worst in the NFL (best is 31.2%, average is 23.4%). Dak on 3rd & 8+: 56/90, 550 yards, 0 TDs, 5 INTs, 56.3 passer rating 5 carries, 47 yards, 1 TD, sacked 14 times On 109 dropbacks, Dak's gotten 18 first downs (well 17 + 1 TD). So an 16.5% conversion rate. The only QB with at least 50 attempts who has a lower passer rating in these situations is Cam Newton at just 51.6, however, his 29.2% conversion rate dwarfs Dak's. Just a few of the 27 QBs with at least 50 passing attempts since 2017 on 3rd and 8+ and better passer rating than Dak: Blake Bortles Case Keenum Tyrod Taylor Jameis Winston Eli Manning CJ Beathard DeShone Kizer In fact you'll have to go all the way to Drew Stanton, who has had just 26 pass attempts, to find another QB with a worse passer rating on 3rd & 8+, although even he has a better 1st down rate at 21.4%. I went to find these numbers after watching him last night and it really striking me how hopeless they are on 3rd & longs. Now traditionally " long" in this context is just 6 yards, but that's no good. Within 6 yards you still have your quick 5 yard slants and outs that can get you the 1st, which I know Dak is comfortable with. It's when you get pushed back another few years that you really have to challenge the D vertically, and a Cowboys punt is basically guaranteed. Odds of getting 8 yards on a slant or out are very slim unless you're being blitzed and they're in man, so Dak needs to either stay in the pocket and wait for an intermediate-deep route to develop, and/or push the ball downfield in a tight window, neither of which he can do well. Go figure, Wentz absolutely dominates in this stat. His 121 passer rating and 44% conversion rate since 2017 is unrivaled. He really has been carrying this offense since 2017, we put him in crappy situations and he makes magic out of it nearly half the time. God Bless Wentz. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimonas Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 inb4 shwartz and mills makes dak look like dan marino out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Go figure, Wentz absolutely dominates in this stat. His 121 passer rating and 44% conversion rate since 2017 is unrivaled. He really has been carrying this offense since 2017, we put him in crappy situations and he makes magic out of it nearly half the time. God Bless Wentz. I just hope Pederson doesn't go full Andy Reid Superman Complex with Wentz like he did with McNabb. Just because they "can" do it ,doesn't mean you should ask or expect it all the time! Edited November 6, 2018 by Nabbs4u Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 @Matts4313 Look at your mans matts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Kiltman said: 7 hours ago, MKnight82 said: I'm really torn on who to root for in Dallas vs. Philly this weekend: Pro Dallas: Helps the Redskins in the division, keeps the Dallas fans hopes alive a bit longer so their inevitable collapse late in the season is more heart wrenching, could make the Dallas front office offer Dak a foolish contract extension, could save Garrett's job. hell, that's even compelling to me But doesn't really matter....Dallas would keep Garrett and extend dak even if they finished 4-12 (they aren't bad enough to lose to the Giants, right?) I love that the Redskins and Eagles fans care more about Dallas than their own teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: I love that the Redskins and Eagles fans care more about Dallas than their own teams. Well the Redskins are never going to win anything so the only joy I get is watching Dallas suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, MKnight82 said: Well the Redskins are never going to win anything so the only joy I get is watching Dallas suffer. I used to be able to say the same, but only about the Eagles. BRB, its time to chug more bleach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles18 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Matts4313 said: I used to be able to say the same, but only about the Eagles. BRB, its time to chug more bleach. Are you cleaning your mouth for all those times you claimed dak is better than Wentz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, eagles18 said: Are you cleaning your mouth for all those times you claimed dak is better than Wentz There are two things wrong with your statement: 1. I really wanted Wentz that draft. I made it well known he was my #1 hopeful. 2. Dak was better than Wentz their rookie seasons. But that doesnt change whats happened. Dak has regressed, along with every other player on the offense. We just suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles18 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: 1. I really wanted Wentz that draft. I made it well known he was my #1 hopeful. Proof or it didn’t happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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