goldfishwars Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Why would you go from Sutton to Rex? It's the same defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, raidersedge said: The Chiefs defense was never great under Sutton but he did do a great job of developing a lot of high level players. Marcus Peters had some incredible seasons under Sutton. Guys like Dee Ford started to come on. Chris Jones, Sorensen. Chiefs have a lot of players who are really good but some reason as a whole unit, it never all came together. We had a great defense for about 3 years under him. 2013 to 2015 was a really good run. The trouble was his scheme was way too vanilla. It was incredibly reliant on guys just winning individual matchups and making big plays individually. It was constant man defense in nickel with a 4 man rush. Like, we led the league in sacks this year, but only 4 of those came from the LBs or DBs. We weren't great at sacks because we mixed up our schemes or blitzed creatively. We were because Jones, Ford, and Houston had great individual performances. For a couple years we led the league in INTs. It wasn't because we confused opposing QBs, it was because Peters and Berry were great at jumping routes and baiting QBs. We've never had a great run defense because that has more to do with teamwork, scheme, and fundamentals, as opposed to being able to be carried by one or two individual stars. We've been great for a decade at drafting defensive stars, and that carried out D for years. Now there's too many holes and Sutton has no actual scheme or play calling abilities to patch them with. Once we lost DJ at ILB and Berry at S our D tanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TedLavie said: @kingseanjohn @Centurion @Chiefer @Jakuvious @KC_Guy @mayanfootball @Habbsawce and others PARTYYYYY Almost makes the loss worth it. I was terrified after that Indy game that we'd lose to New England, but the D would've done well enough in the playoffs to have them keep Sutton. So glad to see him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Juan Castillo is ready to step in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Props to Andy Reid for finally doing this. Not many teams will fire someone a after a top 4 finish, much less a friend, but this needed to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 They should have done this after 2017. Oh well, better late then never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heinz D. Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, goldfishwars said: Why would you go from Sutton to Rex? It's the same defense. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, goldfishwars said: Offense kept him in a job all year. How'd you run such a low risk defense when you have license to mix it up with the teams ability to put up points. Guy was terrible. 1 hour ago, goldfishwars said: Why would you go from Sutton to Rex? It's the same defense. That's strange... I don't recall Rex afraid to take risks or be aggressive on defense. Even if their system is about the same, Rex is aggressive with it, Sutton isn't. That's a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Chiefer said: Shouldve happened 5 years ago. Sure this broke Reid's heart but it needed to be done. I'll disagree with that first point. The year before he became our DC our defense was ranked 25th in points. From 2013 on we were 5, 2, 3, 7, 15, and now 24. His last two years have been bad and we absolutely lost games that we shouldn't have along the way. His in-game adjustments were pretty much non-existent and he didn't really cater the defense to his players strengths. Instead, he was forcing players to play in his scheme even when they struggled. I'm hoping that a new DC will bring some fire to the defense. However, after a bad draft last year, Brett Veach really needs to up his game and get the defense one or two guys who can make an immediate impact. This is a huge off-season for him and the team as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Boltstrikes said: Rex paired with Reid sounds evil for a platter. Fixed. BBQ business in KC gonna be booming next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Sad news for the rest of the AFC.... Good move by the Chiefs, it needed to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Why would you go from Sutton to Rex? It's the same defense. Lol. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Why would you go from Sutton to Rex? It's the same defense. Why would you go from Tyrod Taylor to Baker Mayfield? It's the same QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: I'll disagree with that first point. The year before he became our DC our defense was ranked 25th in points. From 2013 on we were 5, 2, 3, 7, 15, and now 24. His last two years have been bad and we absolutely lost games that we shouldn't have along the way. His in-game adjustments were pretty much non-existent and he didn't really cater the defense to his players strengths. Instead, he was forcing players to play in his scheme even when they struggled. I'm hoping that a new DC will bring some fire to the defense. However, after a bad draft last year, Brett Veach really needs to up his game and get the defense one or two guys who can make an immediate impact. This is a huge off-season for him and the team as a whole. Yeah but how many playoff collapses did he allow since 2014? The guy couldnt adjust, couldnt rotate and hes always had terrible run defenses and yardage allowed numbers. Hes banked on individual talent performing well in the redzone, but once talent started dropping off the "bend-dont-break" turned into bend and break. Anybody who allows the biggest playoff comeback in nfl history will never lead you to a SB. Fans just deluded themselves with stats to believe it was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Chiefer said: Yeah but how many playoff collapses did he allow since 2014? The guy couldnt adjust, couldnt rotate and hes always had terrible run defenses and yardage allowed numbers. Hes banked on individual talent performing well in the redzone, but once talent started dropping off the "bend-dont-break" turned into bend and break. Anybody who allows the biggest playoff comeback in nfl history will never lead you to a SB. Fans just deluded themselves with stats to believe it was possible. I agree that he needed to go. But to say he wasn't good in his first 5 years is just wrong. And those playoff collapses were on the offense as well. When it mattered the team couldn't move the chains and score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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