Packerraymond Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, JaireAlex said: Nope Jaire said he never talked to the Packers....like every first round pick in 9-10 years. So, basically if the Packers talk to a first round prospect I take them off GB's board. Pittsburg, to contrast, basically tells everyone who their guy is. We we're connected to Burks and loved Josh Jackson. Alexander was probably a case of a guy they didn't quite feel comfortable at 14 but didn't think would get to 2nd round. The trade opened up a new tier of player none of us really talked about. LaFleur just talked about wanting a big slot that was versatile enough to play outside. Now we have one of those in EQ, but Brown is a perfect fit. Wasting a visit on a "smokescreen" would be one of the dumbest things I've seen an NFL franchise do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathstar Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Our scouting department builds files on players throughout the league. Starting from before they're drafted to during their time in the league. We might not be targeting Brown with a pick, but we at least want to get more information about him. If we don't draft him it's just more information in his file for when we either play against him or get a chance to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, JaireAlex said: Nope Jaire said he never talked to the Packers....like every first round pick in 9-10 years. So, basically if the Packers talk to a first round prospect I take them off GB's board. Pittsburg, to contrast, basically tells everyone who their guy is. You sure seem to know infinitely more about how the packers operate than the rest of us. You on the inside or something arrigo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Please let the draft get here.......reading the back and forth has gotten so old already. Every player has been nitpicked, bickering over everything possible including visits and such. May have to give up the site for a couple weeks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: You sure seem to know infinitely more about how the packers operate than the rest of us. You on the inside or something arrigo? Please, let me know of the last first round pick who said the Packers showed special interest in them..... Usually they have no idea. Just what anyone can see. They are bringing in more prospects they are interested in but I imagine it's because they have questions unanswered. Cobb was the last I remember and he was second round. To contrast, eight Steelers went to watch Bush work out.....seems to happen most years for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, JaireAlex said: Please, let me know of the last first round pick who said the Packers showed special interest in them..... Usually they have no idea. Just what anyone can see. They are bringing in more prospects they are interested in but I imagine it's because they have questions unanswered. Cobb was the last I remember and he was second round. To contrast, eight Steelers went to watch Bush work out.....seems to happen most years for them. I feel like GB is confident enough in their scouting work that whether we know they’ve talked to them or not says nothing about whether we’d like to draft them or not. I don’t believe we’d waste visits on players we have no interest in. It’s just the fact of the matter that there’s a thousand players in the draft and we’re only going to draft about 8-12 of them. And they do enough work on every draftable prospect to know whether they want to draft them or not, with or without visiting or talking to them. I know this not because I have “inside info” but because it’s what any professional team with a draft and develop philosophy and vast resources attributed to scouting would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Feels like the Packers are connected to a lot more prospects who should go in the first 3 rounds than usual. I wonder if this is a change to how they do business, since it used to be mostly Priority FA type guys, with your occasional 4th round OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Given the track record of the last 2012-2017 years of high picks, bringing players in for visits is not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_gb Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 hours ago, JaireAlex said: Please, let me know of the last first round pick who said the Packers showed special interest in them..... Usually they have no idea. Just what anyone can see. They are bringing in more prospects they are interested in but I imagine it's because they have questions unanswered. Cobb was the last I remember and he was second round. To contrast, eight Steelers went to watch Bush work out.....seems to happen most years for them. Please go back and look at our visits from last year and tally up how many ended up being drafted by Green Bay. Just because there is a history of the way TT used his visits doesnt mean that transfers over to the way Gute does. TT used his visits to woo priority UDFA's you can look at the names Gute is bringing in and see he isnt replicating TT's approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick_gb said: Please go back and look at our visits from last year and tally up how many ended up being drafted by Green Bay. Just because there is a history of the way TT used his visits doesnt mean that transfers over to the way Gute does. TT used his visits to woo priority UDFA's you can look at the names Gute is bringing in and see he isnt replicating TT's approach. Didn't follow draft last year. You're right they brought a lot in. I assume it's those they have further questions on, which is smart. But it certainly does reveal what they are likely to draft in later rounds. All 3 of our WR last year fell. The small slot WRs are an interesting look. Theyre looking at TE (but that's an obvious need). My guess is Harry is our guy early. I would need to look at Butler. I haven't looked too closely at WR. I think it will be a heavy OL draft. We need an overdue restock and the final four teams were offensive juggernauts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 12 hours ago, PossibleCabbage said: Feels like the Packers are connected to a lot more prospects who should go in the first 3 rounds than usual. I wonder if this is a change to how they do business, since it used to be mostly Priority FA type guys, with your occasional 4th round OL. I think it's at least partially due to the fact that more players are posting literally every detail of their lives on social media than there was 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 5:21 PM, JaireAlex said: Please, let me know of the last first round pick who said the Packers showed special interest in them..... Usually they have no idea. Just what anyone can see. They are bringing in more prospects they are interested in but I imagine it's because they have questions unanswered. Cobb was the last I remember and he was second round. To contrast, eight Steelers went to watch Bush work out.....seems to happen most years for them. I remember it was brutally obvious when we drafted Datone Jones. Same thing, but to a lesser extent, with Nick Perry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, Joe said: I remember it was brutally obvious when we drafted Datone Jones. Same thing, but to a lesser extent, with Nick Perry... I think those were obvious picks. ......but there wasn't any connection. It just seemed BPA at the end of a tier. Perry was still the right pick imo. His contract was the mistake. Datone was a mistake that they shouldn't have made. He made some comment in his rookie training camp and I knew he would bust. Still, he wasn't horrible. Worthy was a bad pick. IIRC we moved up for Reyes and he was the other guy. What happens when picking at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers Select Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 With Sternberger coming in on a visit, I'm not sure what to think about him. I'd be able to live with any pick after 44, but hope there isn't a run scenario that causes a trade up (See Richard Rodgers). A lot of Witten and Kelce to his game. Has Witten's stick at the top of the route, and Kelce's versatility with lining up all over the field effectively. Also appears to be sandwiched in between those two guys athletically. Thoughts? I'm sure Mac would have thumped the table for this guy based off the amount of routes he ran in the flat lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaireAlex Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/28/2019 at 11:40 AM, PossibleCabbage said: I mean pass rushers are like quarterbacks (except you need two of them). Have to take them high because they won't be there late. Single most valuable skill on draft day is "can rush the passer" after all. Not entirely We gave N.O. the passrusher and took CB instead. The simple facts Don't bear this out. We took King and passed on Watt. That's literally two drafts in a row. I think the right edge falls to us, we grab him but we went FA instead. And I had kinda come to the same conclusion myself. Unless you get "your guy" in the draft, FA may be a smarter place to get edge. So much draft capital is blown on risky high picks. Those are pics that can be spent on safer premium prospects. While edge is most valued, it's also a very high risk. And the truth is some teams like certain body types more than others. Some avoid pass rush specialists at premium. I was actually upset we passed on Watt and have a hard time buying the meds excuse because the Steelers passed Watt and had failed Lacey. Anyways, I am very firm on passing on risky edge esp when the Packers have many holes to fill. and are rebuilding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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