1[12]: Rashan Gary [EDGE; Michigan]

[Gopackgonerd]

14 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

This is a good post and thank you for getting on here to be viewed.

My only issue and it is little, is this....  You know you haven't made it as a player when you need to post your own good plays on the internet.

I'm just not used to this kind of NFL.  The kind where young players post their highlights in an effort to get more noticed.

Obviously I like the play here, I just wished it had come from someone not named Rashan Gary.

I mean as long as it's not a tweet that creates a distraction for the team or saying some dumb crap like Josh Jones did when he didnt get playing time, let do what he wants on there. 

Edited October 25, 2019 by Gopackgonerd

[vegas492]

3 minutes ago, Gopackgonerd said:

I mean as long as it's not a tweet that creates a distraction for the team or saying some dumb crap like Josh Jones did when he didnt get playing time, let do what he wants on there. 

I get it. 

I'm just not used to NFL players using social media to tout themselves.  Not saying it is right or wrong, just saying that I'm not used to it.

But, social media has created a new platform for players, this is one such use.

And honestly, agents should hire guys to manage their players accounts and do more stuff like this, only have it come from other sources.  It would serve the same purpose, which is getting fans to see their clients' work, it would just look better.

Anyone want to start a company to do this for agents?  

[AlexGreen#20]

20 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

Gary's smart and he's a businessman.  He's said as much.  My guess is that he has someone else managing that account for him.

Which isn't a bad idea at all.  Could be a family member.  Could be an agent, but I think he represents himself, doesn't he?  I'm really not sure.

Those are two scary *** couplets

[deathstar]

Not sure what the problem is with a player being proud of doing the little things. Some people in this thread think about Gary way too much.

[Cakeshoppe]

19 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

I get it. 

I'm just not used to NFL players using social media to tout themselves.  Not saying it is right or wrong, just saying that I'm not used to it.

But, social media has created a new platform for players, this is one such use.

And honestly, agents should hire guys to manage their players accounts and do more stuff like this, only have it come from other sources.  It would serve the same purpose, which is getting fans to see their clients' work, it would just look better.

Anyone want to start a company to do this for agents?  

If I’m an agent, I have an intern create sockpuppet “highlight” accounts to post highlights of my players and then have them retweet those rather than posting directly from their own accounts tbh. Better look imo. I also probably have a “Digital Communications Specialist” running these guys accounts just to keep them from saying stupid **** that’s going to get them fined, make them undesirable to advertisers, etc.

[vegas492]

2 minutes ago, Cakeshoppe said:

If I’m an agent, I have an intern create sockpuppet “highlight” accounts to post highlights of my players and then have them retweet those rather than posting directly from their own accounts tbh. Better look imo. I also probably have a “Digital Communications Specialist” running these guys accounts just to keep them from saying stupid **** that’s going to get them fined, make them undesirable to advertisers, etc.

Totally agree.  That's why we need to form a company to do this and pitch it to agents.  Why have interns run that when it can be run by a team of professionals that post on a chatsite!

[vegas492]

Think of it.  @AlexGreen#20 posts a video highlight.  Then we all come in and comment on it pumping that player up.  

ITS GOLD, JERRY!  GOLD!

 

Edited October 25, 2019 by vegas492

[Norm]

1 hour ago, vegas492 said:

Gary's smart and he's a businessman.  He's said as much.  My guess is that he has someone else managing that account for him.

Which isn't a bad idea at all.  Could be a family member.  Could be an agent, but I think he represents himself, doesn't he?  I'm really not sure.

He retweets highlights from a page called rashan Gary sports too. 

Edited October 25, 2019 by Norm

[Reaper]

So I am a little confused about the Gif posted a while back....

To me it looks as though Fackrell and Gary are exhibiting almost the same exact technique at nearly the same time. Would it not be fair to say its encouraging that he at least has the same technique as a guy who has been in the league a few years. Especially given that Gary was considered so raw coming out? Also if they are both showing the same technique why cant we assume thats what they were coached to do? 

[Reaper]

On 10/24/2019 at 4:55 AM, AlexGreen#20 said:

That's most of his reps.

His legs are trying to turn the corner.

His arms are trying to bullrush.

His hands are throwing first (this is bad).

This is the Gif I was referring to in my previous post.

[MrBobGray]

21 minutes ago, Reaper said:

This is the Gif I was referring to in my previous post.

Well it was a pretty ineffective rush by Fackrell, so it kinda depends on if that's what you're looking for.  More importantly though, they actually don't have the same technique.

What @AlexGreen#20 is pointing out is the disconnect between Gary's legs and his upper body.  Look at this hips; they stay parallel to the line of scrimmage until after he shoots his hands.  If you ignored his torso, you'd think he was trying to speed rush up field right up until he's not.  Throwing his hands turns his body into the OL, and his legs follow, and the result is there's zero power behind it because all of his strength is going upfield, because that's where his core is going.  It's just like literally any physical combat sport; when you strike for impact, you throw it through your hips because that's where the power comes from.  If everything is arms and chest, you're giving up the majority of your power. 

Now look at Fackrell; his body is fully in alignment when he makes contact.  His hips are turned and he's perpendicular to the line of scrimmage.  He drives his weight through his upper body and arms into the tackle, and you can see the effect; Gary's tackle doesn't move backwards at all, while Fackrell's has to reset his feet backward to take the punch.  It's not a great bullrush because he shoots his hands too early and lets the tackle get his shoulder pads before he's moving backward, but you can still see a clear difference in the technique.

[Reaper]

1 minute ago, MrBobGray said:

Well it was a pretty ineffective rush by Fackrell, so it kinda depends on if that's what you're looking for.  More importantly though, they actually don't have the same technique.

What @AlexGreen#20 is pointing out is the disconnect between Gary's legs and his upper body.  Look at this hips; they stay parallel to the line of scrimmage until after he shoots his hands.  If you ignored his torso, you'd think he was trying to speed rush up field right up until he's not.  Throwing his hands turns his body into the OL, and his legs follow, and the result is there's zero power behind it because all of his strength is going upfield, because that's where his core is going.  It's just like literally any physical combat sport; when you strike for impact, you throw it through your hips because that's where the power comes from.  If everything is arms and chest, you're giving up the majority of your power. 

Now look at Fackrell; his body is fully in alignment when he makes contact.  His hips are turned and he's perpendicular to the line of scrimmage.  He drives his weight through his upper body and arms into the tackle, and you can see the effect; Gary's tackle doesn't move backwards at all, while Fackrell's has to reset his feet backward to take the punch.  It's not a great bullrush because he shoots his hands too early and lets the tackle get his shoulder pads before he's moving backward, but you can still see a clear difference in the technique.

Thanks thats the explanation I was looking for

[MrBobGray]

Honestly, at this point I kinda just want them to play Gary at the 0 when they go to any pressure package with five on the line and just have his entire role be "run through the center."  He spends so many of his reps trying to do like nine different things, and I wish he would give a serious effort to forgetting all that and just running through someone's face.  That athlete should not be so easily handled on the bull rush, and maybe just taking all of his space away will help.

[vegas492]

4 minutes ago, MrBobGray said:

Honestly, at this point I kinda just want them to play Gary at the 0 when they go to any pressure package with five on the line and just have his entire role be "run through the center."  He spends so many of his reps trying to do like nine different things, and I wish he would give a serious effort to forgetting all that and just running through someone's face.  That athlete should not be so easily handled on the bull rush, and maybe just taking all of his space away will help.

His future is the EDGE.  I'd rather they let him focus on that and work on technique that's he's getting in practice.  But I do get what you are saying there.

[AlexGreen#20]

45 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

His future is the EDGE.  I'd rather they let him focus on that and work on technique that's he's getting in practice.  But I do get what you are saying there.

Is it? Not sure his future isn't as a 5 or even a 3.