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[Deadpulse]

9 hours ago, Bullet Club said:

Wardlow is not ready to be world champ, and isn't hot at all right now. Let it be Mox vs. Bryan which will probs happen, and then MJF can win it at Full Gear so they build the belt back up again. Then Wardlow can eventually take it off MJF.

Mox is gonna lose in his first match in this tourney to give Sammy or Darby a big push of legitimacy. He said it himself on Dynamite, he was supposed to be on vacation after dropping to Punk. I think he is giving Tony an extra few weeks due to the circumstances but will ultimately take that much deserved time off. 

[bucksavage1]

The Elite and Punk are to blame. Two combustible elements finally exploded.

Aew would be better off without Omega, Bucks, Cutler. Punk is bad but probably not as bad as the elite. According to Brian Last, there’s been other non public issues with the Elite and other people 

[bucksavage1]

14 hours ago, Jeezla said:

AEW should just have Wardlow unify the TNT and Heavyweight title, then do a tourney for a new TNT champion, culminating in a fatal 4-way between Hobbs, Starks, Bryan Danielson, and Miro to decide a new TNT champ. Wardlow should feud with MJF, Kenny, and Punk depending what happens with him.

Curious what direction they go with House of Black. Brody King looks like someone who should have a run as AEW champ down the line, but they'll probably just make Brody and Buddy another Butcher and Blade level tag team that never wins the belts. Not sure what Lance Archer is doing these days, but he'd make sense as a Malakai replacement if they want House of Black competing in trios matches. 

They should give the title to Wardlow or Darby. At this point, a non Elite or ex-WWE world champ would benefit aew

[Mox]

1 hour ago, Deadpulse said:

Mox is gonna lose in his first match in this tourney to give Sammy or Darby a big push of legitimacy. He said it himself on Dynamite, he was supposed to be on vacation after dropping to Punk. I think he is giving Tony an extra few weeks due to the circumstances but will ultimately take that much deserved time off. 

I wouldn't do it that way but I can see it happening.

[StLunatic88]

13 hours ago, Dr LBC said:

Part of it has to do with the idol worship that some (not you, but the people in this thread that I'm referring to know who they are) have for Kenny and the Bucks; very good wrestlers if you're into new age wrestling that eschews certain tried and true marks of the craft in order to "get their stuff in," but the GOAT they ain't (and I don't think Punk is now or was in his prime either, so folks shouldn't even bother bringing that argument against me).  And said idol worship has seemed to allow for giving them a pass for them and, especially, some of their friends not only shining, but acting offended to even receive advice from veterans who have been there, drawn the money consistent, run the shows because it runs contrary to what they think or requires them to accept criticism.

I agree with basically everything you are saying, in pretty much all the posts weve had back and forth. I just was trying to point out that what was coming across as excusing Punk and his actions, both Sunday night and overall involvement, which just cant be done due to how it culminated.

I was hinting at the Elite stuff when I was talking about the Trios tournament, saying "would Kenny come back for anything less than the Belts?" In their mind they deserved to the "first" yet again, and I do feel like its often getting in the way of the betterment of AEW. I feel like Punk has done that too at times, but because he has helped out plenty of guys in the back (often it seems only those he deems worthy of his time) he gets more of a pass there. 

In the end, I think if these are true suspensions, and we get a break from the Bucks for a while, and have Kenny/Punk go fully heal up like they should, it could be a very good thing for the company. It clears the card alittle bit, and if they use that opportunity to build up their own talent, and not just run thigs we've seen a bunch before, they can be in a much better position when each of those suspended return.

 

[Mox]

Not only is Punk out 6+ months, apparently Christian is too. Same injury.

[StLunatic88]

1 hour ago, Bullet Club said:

I wouldn't do it that way but I can see it happening.

Im not sure they should run the title back on Mox so quickly, especially with the other talent they have that can hold the Top Title, at least a little while, just so MJF can take it off of them. 

But it really depends on how quickly they want to give it to MJF. If they are ok turning it around and giving it him at another Battle of the Belts a few weeks after Grand Slam, then sure you could run Mox. But if they want to play this out more, like all the way to Full Gear, and Mox was promised some Vacation, feels like a much harder sell.

But, there is something to be said to giving it to Mox, and letting him off TV for 3-4 weeks.  (I mean in person, do some taped promos to keep him in mind) but it pulls the Title off the table for a bit, and maybe give some proper shine to the Atlantic Belt, the 2 sets of Tag belts, and even the TNT belt (although thats not as necessary). Could even be part of MJFs promos that hes trying to cash in his chip, but Mox is running scared

Plenty of ways to go, but I could also see this as the time they give it to Danielson, especially since the end of his career is possibly every time he goes in the ring. 

[StLunatic88]

9 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

Not only is Punk out 6+ months, apparently Christian is too. Same injury.

I really thought this was going to be the end of the line for Christian anyway, wonder what they will do for this feud now? Let him be the mouthpiece for Luchasaurus?

Sounded like he was headed backstage anyway, but I really think he could be a good GM/Comish role for AEW, something they need on screen, as Tony cant really fulfill that in any believable role. But doing it with Lucha as his muscle isnt a bad way to start. He can still torment Jungle Boy in that role too.

[Mox]

15 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said:

Im not sure they should run the title back on Mox so quickly, especially with the other talent they have that can hold the Top Title, at least a little while, just so MJF can take it off of them. 

But it really depends on how quickly they want to give it to MJF. If they are ok turning it around and giving it him at another Battle of the Belts a few weeks after Grand Slam, then sure you could run Mox. But if they want to play this out more, like all the way to Full Gear, and Mox was promised some Vacation, feels like a much harder sell.

But, there is something to be said to giving it to Mox, and letting him off TV for 3-4 weeks.  (I mean in person, do some taped promos to keep him in mind) but it pulls the Title off the table for a bit, and maybe give some proper shine to the Atlantic Belt, the 2 sets of Tag belts, and even the TNT belt (although thats not as necessary). Could even be part of MJFs promos that hes trying to cash in his chip, but Mox is running scared

Plenty of ways to go, but I could also see this as the time they give it to Danielson, especially since the end of his career is possibly every time he goes in the ring. 

I'd rather give it to Mox and delay his break or just have him cut promos from afar than give it to Bryan right now. Bryan is like a month removed from injury, has dropped numerous titles to injury, and the belt has changed hands a ton lately. Last night alone he was working stiff. You can't have another setback with the title. Plus it goes along with his promo of this is the time to become a legend.

Edited September 8, 2022 by Bullet Club

[Mox]

But if I'm being honest the best route is Mox vs. Bryan at Grand Slam. They are 30 minutes into a brutal fight. Then MJF cashes in and makes it a triple threat and wins. Saves Mox/Bryan finish for a third match, and we jump right into the correct champion.

[StLunatic88]

3 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

I'd rather give it to Mox and delay his break or just have him cut promos from afar than give it to Bryan right now. Bryan is like a month removed from injury, has dropped numerous titles to injury, and the belt has changed hands a ton lately. Last night alone he was working stiff. You can't have another setback with the title. Plus it goes along with his promo of this is the time to become a legend.

I do agree there. Was just thinking of that promo, and the fact they had him be the one to face up MJF. I like the idea of him taking the vacation with the belt. Maybe even saying last time I fought every night and all it got me was an "interim" label. 

As for Bryan, you are correct. But at the same time, can you see why the company would want to give him a run with his name on it before you lose him forever? even if its only a few weeks?

This is probably headed for Jericho/Danielson 3, and I could see JAS costing Danielson in the finals at Grand Slam to do so.

[StLunatic88]

1 minute ago, Bullet Club said:

But if I'm being honest the best route is Mox vs. Bryan at Grand Slam. They are 30 minutes into a brutal fight. Then MJF cashes in and makes it a triple threat and wins. Saves Mox/Bryan finish for a third match, and we jump right into the correct champion.

I cant remember, does the Casino Chip work the same way as the MITB Briefcase? Or is it just to set a match?

Obviously they can change the rules to fit however they want, but cant remember previous right now

[Mox]

2 minutes ago, StLunatic88 said:

I cant remember, does the Casino Chip work the same way as the MITB Briefcase? Or is it just to set a match?

Obviously they can change the rules to fit however they want, but cant remember previous right now

Historically I don't think so but MJF last night highlighted he can fight for the title whenever he wants. It's the best route. Protects Bryan/Mox, skips the filler, and then Mox can take time off.

[Fresh Prince]

Tony should get most of the blame for sitting there like a moron while punk says all that stuff.

Also keep the AEW belt far away from Sammy or Darby.

[Deadpulse]

1 minute ago, Fresh Prince said:

Tony should get most of the blame for sitting there like a moron while punk says all that stuff.

Also keep the AEW belt far away from Sammy or Darby.

Darby is ready, but they should build to the payoff in a similar way to Rey's world title. The ultimate underdog. The big distinction should be that Darby just wont die