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Hello, everyone! Wanted to get a general OTA, minicamp, and training camp thread going for discussion that is separate from the other pieces of discussion. Post your videos and discussion here! 

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I said when we made the pick that Samuel, like Pettis, was going to dominate the one on one drills at camp. Those dudes are next level route runners and are able to create so much separation at the LOS. Honestly, opposing defenses should try to play as much zone as possible against our receivers. Those two are press man killers. At the very least play off man coverage where they can't win right off the LOS. 

 

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https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-rookie-camp-notes-john-lynch-denies-rift-kyle-shanahan

Uhhhhhh not sure what to make of this 

"Defensive end Nick Bosa, the 49ers No. 2 overall draft pick, did not take part in 11-on-11 work, as the team wants to ease him back into football shape. The thing that stood out in the individual and one-on-one drills is his technical side, including his hands use. Tackle Justin Skule, a sixth-round draft pick, more than held his own against Bosa when they were matched up."

Who remembers when aldon Smith was supposedly dominating all-pro Joe Staley in OTAs? 

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4 hours ago, N4L said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-rookie-camp-notes-john-lynch-denies-rift-kyle-shanahan

Uhhhhhh not sure what to make of this 

"Defensive end Nick Bosa, the 49ers No. 2 overall draft pick, did not take part in 11-on-11 work, as the team wants to ease him back into football shape. The thing that stood out in the individual and one-on-one drills is his technical side, including his hands use. Tackle Justin Skule, a sixth-round draft pick, more than held his own against Bosa when they were matched up."

Who remembers when aldon Smith was supposedly dominating all-pro Joe Staley in OTAs? 

Padless football is meaningless football, but if it makes you feel better, here's how Barrows described the matchup:

Going against sixth-round pick Justin Skule, Bosa drove the 318-pounder back a few steps with a power move on their first encounter. Skule may have over-prepared for a similar move on the next snap, one in which Bosa easily moved past him around the outside.

 

You can also choose to interpret the original report as Justin Skule is our future starting RT when Staley retires because he's obviously a stud.

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3 hours ago, y2lamanaki said:

Padless football is meaningless football, but if it makes you feel better, here's how Barrows described the matchup:

Going against sixth-round pick Justin Skule, Bosa drove the 318-pounder back a few steps with a power move on their first encounter. Skule may have over-prepared for a similar move on the next snap, one in which Bosa easily moved past him around the outside.

 

You can also choose to interpret the original report as Justin Skule is our future starting RT when Staley retires because he's obviously a stud.

Right, it may have been Cohn but he said Bosa won four out of six reps which is still good. 

And as for Skule? He allowed one sack all last season while playing in the SEC. That one sack allowed? To a top 10 pick in Josh Allen. So he very well just may be a very solid pass protector. And who knows, he may end up being our swing tackle this season. 

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8 hours ago, N4L said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/49ers-rookie-camp-notes-john-lynch-denies-rift-kyle-shanahan

Uhhhhhh not sure what to make of this 

"Defensive end Nick Bosa, the 49ers No. 2 overall draft pick, did not take part in 11-on-11 work, as the team wants to ease him back into football shape. The thing that stood out in the individual and one-on-one drills is his technical side, including his hands use. Tackle Justin Skule, a sixth-round draft pick, more than held his own against Bosa when they were matched up."

Who remembers when aldon Smith was supposedly dominating all-pro Joe Staley in OTAs? 

There's nothing to make of it. He held his own...that's such a vague and broad encompassing statement. Let's remember, offensive linemen tend to have built in advantages to win battles. Think about how great Aaron Donald is and then realize he had a win rate on the line of barely over 20% last year, which means he won about 1 in every 5 snaps against the offensive line. Think of Buckner, all the snaps he plays, and then realize he hit the quarterback 32 times last year (12 sacks, 20 hits) - twice per game where he was likely getting 30+ pass snaps a game. If Skule gives up 1 sack, 2 hits and a few pressures to bosa, you could say he "held his own" given the perceived differential in players, but you'd also say that was a quality game from bosa. 

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47 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said:

So, depending on interpretation, either Bosa got Skule-d or Bosa did some Skule-ing?! :P

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Hurd looks like he needs hands work in 757s clip... Dropped two easy balls

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1 hour ago, Ftn49 said:

Hurd looks like he needs hands work in 757s clip... Dropped two easy balls

Agreed. From what I understand he had some trouble with drops at Baylor too. Time to hit that juggs machine.

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2 hours ago, Gore Whore 21 said:

Agreed. From what I understand he had some trouble with drops at Baylor too. Time to hit that juggs machine.

Yup, the consensus is that he drops easy catches and makes eye-popping catches. It's like a shortstop in baseball, most will make a Derek Jeter-like diving play but will airmail a routine throw. Most of it is just concentration and trusting your abilities. Hurd just needs time to develop and allow the game to slow down for him.

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Honestly, he does lose concentration at times but should be able to get better with time. I'm more interested in seeing the type of separation he can create and how big of a weapon he is after the catch. 

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