Marvel Mafia - The game is over, the Sinister Six have conquered Earth!

[Scoundrel]

Oh boy Swag all that work for me to be Avenger Aligned hahaha. 

[Scoundrel]

I guess my terrible play has really helped the mafia and they are licking their chops. 

[ET80]

Bet someone Matts is Loki.

[Pickle Rick]

7 hours ago, DingoLadd said:

What's the point of causing chaos on D1? If you remember I waited until D2 to go full ham on my Orca lynch. 

Eliminate all threats to the earth. Nobody said anything about saving it... 

I could forgive 1 slip, maybe 2, but 3.......🤔🤔🤔

3 hours ago, Matts4313 said:

JFC SMH. 

You still dont get the mounted evidence that there is 0% chance that I am mafia. 

I didnt even use the Civ PM to LOLclear myself. Are you even following the effing game? I used my role knowledge in the very early parts. I said that ish like 50 pages ago too........

The only time the civ PM thing got brought up was win Malf asked in thread who do the Civs win the game. I said that ish like 50 pages ago too.............

****** read the damn thread. Its all there. Then you and Dome dont have to make stupid arse comments like "He said the civs" instead of "us Civs" even though I can be included in the word "the".

"the American race" <=== Look i am still inclusive. 

You and dome over here being Harry and Loyd. 

 

You are losing it my friend.  I'm not gonna address the PM thing bc it is irrelevant to me and I wont consider it as damaging either way.  

What I will consider is yeh words that were used in the posts.  

You said "in the civ PM" and from my viewpoint that is a huge slip.  

Then you said "the civs will lynch you"  that's the 2nd slip thus now establishing your stance in relation to the rest of the thread.  

You use the word "the" to distinguish a separation from what follows.  Its subconscious and is extremely alarming.  

Now the 3rd slip 🤔🤔🤔

matts 

[ramssuperbowl99]

7 hours ago, DingoLadd said:

So who are we lynching first? 

When Captain America finds out that someone is gonna get lynched. @MWil23

[Pickle Rick]

Extremely unofficial VC.  I also caught one mistake so there could be a few others. 

Player    Voting for    Total votes on player
touch     counselor    3
bcb    counselor    
squire     counselor    
counselor    dingo    1
ksj    et    1
et    ksj    4
malf    ksj    
lbc    ksj    
matts    malf    1
pr    matts    1
md4l    mwil    2
swag    mwil    
mwil    nacho    3
dome    nacho     
whicker    nacho     
forge    pr    1
mission     swag    1
orca    utley    1
dingo    whicker     1
tk3        
utley        
rags        
nacho        
sanchez        

[Dome]

swag, you got it wrong. 

[ET80]

29 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said:

ksj    et    1

Mistake. Malf called it out.

[ET80]

Just now, ET80 said:

Mistake. Malf called it out.

Ok, NVM. Didn't read the headers.

[TheKillerNacho]

35 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said:

Extremely unofficial VC.  I also caught one mistake so there could be a few others. 

Player    Voting for    Total votes on player
touch     counselor    3
bcb    counselor    
squire     counselor    
counselor    dingo    1
ksj    et    1
et    ksj    4
malf    ksj    
lbc    ksj    
matts    malf    1
pr    matts    1
md4l    mwil    2
swag    mwil    
mwil    nacho    3
dome    nacho     
whicker    nacho     
forge    pr    1
mission     swag    1
orca    utley    1
dingo    whicker     1
tk3        
utley        
rags        
nacho        
sanchez        

I voted for Tk3 tho

[MD4L]

11 hours ago, Whicker said:

I read a large majority of the posts from those 107 pages. You all can sure talk about nothing quite a bit

Thanks for that update.

11 hours ago, Malfatron said:

i memorized every post.

it will come in handy day 4

You deserve a Medal of Honor.

[Tk3]

1 hour ago, Pickle Rick said:

I could forgive 1 slip, maybe 2, but 3.......🤔🤔🤔

You are losing it my friend.  I'm not gonna address the PM thing bc it is irrelevant to me and I wont consider it as damaging either way.  

What I will consider is yeh words that were used in the posts.  

You said "in the civ PM" and from my viewpoint that is a huge slip.  

Then you said "the civs will lynch you"  that's the 2nd slip thus now establishing your stance in relation to the rest of the thread.  

You use the word "the" to distinguish a separation from what follows.  Its subconscious and is extremely alarming.  

Now the 3rd slip 🤔🤔🤔

matts 

This is so dumb and 99% of perceived slips are literally not slips and cause tunneling that has no correlation with alignment

I would speculate that “slip” lynches have a lower rate of success than a regular lynch, especially when the “slip” in question is this dumb

[Ragnarok]

8 hours ago, SwAg said:

Ragnarok:

This is Ragnarok's entrance to the thread.  The bold is endorsing Dome's statement about mission and I.  This is furthering the appearance of a connection between Mission and I, and signaling that he will move on it.

Ragnarok's other thread contributions are primarily (1) artificially useful (e.g., discussion of mechanics or theme); (2) off-topic posting.  Compare to The Wire, where Ragnarok is also Mafia.  All of this is dispersed throughout the thread while bona fide substantive conversation is occurring.  The closest Ragnarok has come to a substantive contribution is ribbing related to role-claiming / PM Game.  It is reminiscent of what I said then:

So, when Ragnarok is not NK'd, and is continuously and inexplicably "wrong" on his reads or otherwise choosing incorrectly on all of the critical thread developments.

Also, you may recall I have accused Ragnarok of being Mafia in a few games.  When this occurs, Ragnarok has been prone to declare himself unreadable and dismiss me as "always calling him Mafia."  Or, at least he does that when he's Town.  The games where he didn't do that?  The Wire and Gopher's game.  Ragnarok was Mafia in The Wire and the converted Killer in Gopher's game.  Ragnarok has not even remarked on my listing him this game.  He's going to come in here and tell you he didn't do that because: something-something, it is pointless.

You know what he has done, though?  He liked posts of me accusing him.  He also liked a post of Touch accusing Counselor of having a scum retort.  The issue is that the retort Touch characterized as a scum retort is the one that Ragnarok has been guilty of multiple times as Town.  As Town, Ragnarok maintained that it was not a scummy response.  Thus, Ragnarok does not actually believe it is a scum tell, but is pushing it as such. 

He is low-key endorsing Counselor as Mafia, while not committing to it in a way that would further the lynch prospects of Counselor.

I invited people to re-read Ragnarok's posts.

 

So, that's where I'm at in my view of the game.

It begins anew.  

You do always call me mafia.  Every game.  Not a few games.  And you're never right for any viable reason.  If you call someone scum in every game, yes you will find a nut now and then.  So yes, I didn't care that you listed me cause you always list me.  But I did like the baseless accusations, like about what I've been guilty of as town or what I do or don't believe is a scum tell.  

I did think that liking the posts would get under your skin which I do always enjoy.    

There is one thing we can all celebrate this game.  I'm not a tracker.   

[Whicker]

8 hours ago, SwAg said:

Counselor:

Counselor had a poor entrance to the thread.  Mostly because he was greeted by me.

He followed it up by responding in a guilty fashion to Dome's remark that was addressed to me, rather than him.

Green Aligned.  Declared his character sucks.  Later soft-claimed with the Pixie Cut remark.

Counselor assumed the guilty connection was between him and Mission. 

 

Then, Counselor had a list of scum that included five people.  

Alone, not that significant, but again, five is oddly specific.  As Touch pointed out.

The concept is that Counselor knows that there are five Mafia instead of six.  The information was in the OP, which Counselor could have said, but he opted to simply not do so.  Instead, he simply didn't respond to it, and then went after Touch.

Counselor issued a soft claim for his character, which is largely meaningless because scum would definitely have fakes to prevent a 1-2-3 everyone roleclaim game.

 

Now, after PM Gate, he is coming out after the fact to declare knowledge of the win condition.  Piggybacking off of matts, and openly brandishing it after abstaining from the initial PM Game.

Other Notes: Counselor is aware of his meta, and playing it up.  See the Micro game with Touch as his partner there.

 

Side Note:  Danger/Utley also fit because of Utley's post about who is Counselor, and Danger rage quit after matts seemingly condemned Counselor to death with his Green slip while also clearing himself in a way Danger thought was too meta for the game.

Dome/Mission:

This is Dome's entrance to the thread.  So, let's engage in Malfatron's favorite inquiry: why would Mafia say this?

My theory is that Dome and Mission are Mafia together.  This interaction serves multiple purposes to position themselves.

One, Dome (and scum in general) is well aware that I have a substantial thread presence.  I am not an easy mislynch.  And, right, wrong, or indifferent, in light of the end of the last game, people might be a bit more skittish about making the same mistake.  Why is this relevant?  It plants the seed that I am connected to Mission in the event Mission is lynched or modkilled, an occurrence that is hardly unlikely given Mission's perpetual mediocrity and liability status.  Thus, it puts a chink in my thread armor to be exploited since they're not going to win a lynch argument with me absent something to exploit, or at least not win it without sustaining losses that make it impossible to justify the cost of the fight.  Instead of waiting and hoping for one, they created it.

Two, I am hardly an unpopular N1 target.  In fact, I've been killed N1 in both games Dome was Mafia and I was in the game.  If Dome and Mission are Mafia, they know I'm not Mafia.  Thus, if I'm killed and flip Town, then Missions gets a degree of good faith because: Look, Mission was connected to SwAg and SwAg is Town.  Even if I'm protected and survive the hit this effect is accomplished (because it's hard write-up evidence that I'm not Mafia, which is subconsciously imputed to Mission).

Three, and this goes beyond this interaction, look into who Dome is defending and attacking.  Dome is punching downward for the most part.  He is hardly punching laterally, and is not punching upward.  This is a tactic to play as Mafia while mitigating the risk of absorbing a hard gut punch with a heavy hitter.  In this interaction he only engaged me indirectly.  Then, I antagonized him once more, and he took the joke route.  

Who else has Dome interacted with? Primarily matts, Malfatron, TKN, Counselor, and myself.

Read the rest of this page.  Counselor slips up with the guilty conscience, and Dome moves on from it thereafter.  He has blanked on Counselor since declaring he disliked his reaction.

Since then, Dome has primarily kept Malfatron and matts in the forefront of the game.  The effects of that is keeping someone other than Counselor in the spotlight, ingratiating himself with Town if Malfatron is not Mafia, or since his last post about Malfatron ingratiating himself as Town if Malfatron is Mafia.  The reason I feel it is an act right now is that, despite what Dome says, he does not value my life on D1.  He tried to get me lynched in Reservoir Dogs Mafia on D1 on arguably less than what Malfatron has before him.

So, how else is Counselor related to this?  Dome expressed concern for those dropping character claims and hints.  The appearance of caution for scum with fake claims, while not pursuing it.

Know who dropped a character hint?  Mr. Pixie Cut.  Know who Dome isn't talking about at all?  Mr. Pixie Cut.

The flaw I have here is that I actually thought his approach on TKN made sense.  

 

Ragnarok:

This is Ragnarok's entrance to the thread.  The bold is endorsing Dome's statement about mission and I.  This is furthering the appearance of a connection between Mission and I, and signaling that he will move on it.

Ragnarok's other thread contributions are primarily (1) artificially useful (e.g., discussion of mechanics or theme); (2) off-topic posting.  Compare to The Wire, where Ragnarok is also Mafia.  All of this is dispersed throughout the thread while bona fide substantive conversation is occurring.  The closest Ragnarok has come to a substantive contribution is ribbing related to role-claiming / PM Game.  It is reminiscent of what I said then:

So, when Ragnarok is not NK'd, and is continuously and inexplicably "wrong" on his reads or otherwise choosing incorrectly on all of the critical thread developments.

Also, you may recall I have accused Ragnarok of being Mafia in a few games.  When this occurs, Ragnarok has been prone to declare himself unreadable and dismiss me as "always calling him Mafia."  Or, at least he does that when he's Town.  The games where he didn't do that?  The Wire and Gopher's game.  Ragnarok was Mafia in The Wire and the converted Killer in Gopher's game.  Ragnarok has not even remarked on my listing him this game.  He's going to come in here and tell you he didn't do that because: something-something, it is pointless.

You know what he has done, though?  He liked posts of me accusing him.  He also liked a post of Touch accusing Counselor of having a scum retort.  The issue is that the retort Touch characterized as a scum retort is the one that Ragnarok has been guilty of multiple times as Town.  As Town, Ragnarok maintained that it was not a scummy response.  Thus, Ragnarok does not actually believe it is a scum tell, but is pushing it as such. 

He is low-key endorsing Counselor as Mafia, while not committing to it in a way that would further the lynch prospects of Counselor.

I invited people to re-read Ragnarok's posts.

 

So, that's where I'm at in my view of the game.

I liked the Dome/Mission portion the best

[MD4L]

13 hours ago, SwAg said:

“Too bold and unprovoked, must be Town!” scum play logic will creep in at some point, and you know it.

Can’t be afraid to make bold decisions as town.

13 hours ago, mission27 said:

The key like I’m trying to get across here js

tlu gotta believe to win

At all costs.