theJ Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 hours ago, Elky said: Congratulations, you'd be immediately fired. Why? It could be really fun watching Ryan Finley start 16 games next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, theJ said: Why? It could be really fun watching Ryan Finley start 16 games next year. Just trade for Cam Newton lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, theJ said: Why? It could be really fun watching Ryan Finley start 16 games next year. Almost guaranteeing that we get Lawrence too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastradamus Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 17 hours ago, VanS said: If I have to pick someone I would draft DT Derrick Brown from Auburn. He's the only player I see going high in mock drafts that jumped off the screen to me when I watched him play. His performance against Florida stood out to me. With that said I think this year's draft is weak at the top. I would trade picks in this year's draft for extra picks in next year's draft. I was with you on Brown, to a degree, but weak at the top in this draft? You left me confused there lmao. 3 OTs would be the best in a lot of classes, 2 of the best WR prospects in years, top CB in at least 3 classes, a true elite non Qb, true 1-1 QB, another 1-1 level QB if healthy. Plus Brown, Epenesa and even Delpit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Nastradamus said: I was with you on Brown, to a degree, but weak at the top in this draft? You left me confused there lmao. 3 OTs would be the best in a lot of classes, 2 of the best WR prospects in years, top CB in at least 3 classes, a true elite non Qb, true 1-1 QB, another 1-1 level QB if healthy. Plus Brown, Epenesa and even Delpit. Who are these 2 best WR prospects in years? Okudah looks good but not really that special like a Derek Stingley Jr. Delpit reminds me a lot of Eric Reid. Good player but not that special. And I've made my opinion about Tua and Burrow clear for months. Even before the injury I wasn't enamored with Tua's skillset and I feared for his durability. OL has never been my strong suit when it comes to evaluation so you might be right about them. When I say the top of this draft isn't strong, I'm not saying there aren't quality starters available. I just don't see many transcended superstars like Myles Garrett, Pat Mahomes, Saquon Barkley, Lamar Jackson, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastradamus Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 3:45 PM, VanS said: Who are these 2 best WR prospects in years? Okudah looks good but not really that special like a Derek Stingley Jr. Delpit reminds me a lot of Eric Reid. Good player but not that special. And I've made my opinion about Tua and Burrow clear for months. Even before the injury I wasn't enamored with Tua's skillset and I feared for his durability. OL has never been my strong suit when it comes to evaluation so you might be right about them. When I say the top of this draft isn't strong, I'm not saying there aren't quality starters available. I just don't see many transcended superstars like Myles Garrett, Pat Mahomes, Saquon Barkley, Lamar Jackson, etc. Ok, but just know that those are bizarre, outlier opinions in the draft community. I respect anyone having their own opinion though of course. That said, We saw guys like Lattimore and Ward be high impact CBs out of the gate as rookies and Okudah is clearly better than both. Delpit allowed 9 completions and only 23 targets on the entire season. His film when healthy is definitely in a league with guys like James and Adams IMO. Jeudy and Lamb are each the type of prospect who are the #1 guy in their class almost any year they come out. This year's WR class is stacked and those 2 are a tier above the rest by almost everyone. Add in Young,Brown and Epenesa and I'm surprised at your opinion. Again, to each their own though. I've certainly been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 15 hours ago, Nastradamus said: Ok, but just know that those are bizarre, outlier opinions in the draft community. I respect anyone having their own opinion though of course. That said, We saw guys like Lattimore and Ward be high impact CBs out of the gate as rookies and Okudah is clearly better than both. Delpit allowed 9 completions and only 23 targets on the entire season. His film when healthy is definitely in a league with guys like James and Adams IMO. Jeudy and Lamb are each the type of prospect who are the #1 guy in their class almost any year they come out. This year's WR class is stacked and those 2 are a tier above the rest by almost everyone. Add in Young,Brown and Epenesa and I'm surprised at your opinion. Again, to each their own though. I've certainly been wrong before. My views are typically outliers when it comes to the draft. We'll see how this class turns out. I'm just not that enamored with it like I was the 2017 and 2018 draft classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, VanS said: My views are typically outliers when it comes to the draft. Agreed. You are the Kyrie Irving of the draft community. No matter how many people say the earth is round, you continue to insist that it is flat. It’s like you make absurd statements and evaluations just to be different from everyone else. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, NateDawg said: It’s like you make absurd statements and evaluations just to be different from everyone else. I've never said anything on here I don't fully believe in. Maybe you should consider the possibility some people don't think like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, VanS said: I've never said anything on here I don't fully believe in. Maybe you should consider the possibility some people don't think like everyone else. That may be true, but don't lie, you like the attention a lil bit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 IDK. To me VanS is just a contrarian. You could say the Cowboys wear blue and he'd say they wear Dark Purple. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 1/4/2020 at 2:45 PM, VanS said: When I say the top of this draft isn't strong, I'm not saying there aren't quality starters available. I just don't see many transcended superstars like Myles Garrett, Pat Mahomes, Saquon Barkley, Lamar Jackson, etc. How many transcendent superstars do you think there are in a given draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 hours ago, CWood21 said: How many transcendent superstars do you think there are in a given draft? Depends on the draft. The best drafts have 5-6 like 2018. The worst have none like 2009 and 2015. Average draft might have 1-2. This draft is somewhere between 0-2. The only 2 players I think can be special are Derrick Brown and Tee Higgins. But with Tee I want to see his speed. He has AJ Green type skills but I'm scared he might not have the speed to be that special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, VanS said: Depends on the draft. The best drafts have 5-6 like 2018. The worst have none like 2009 and 2015. Average draft might have 1-2. This draft is somewhere between 0-2. The only 2 players I think can be special are Derrick Brown and Tee Higgins. But with Tee I want to see his speed. He has AJ Green type skills but I'm scared he might not have the speed to be that special. Tee Higgins is somewhere between DeVante Parker and AJ Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanS Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Danger said: Tee Higgins is somewhere between DeVante Parker and AJ Green That sounds about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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