GDT Week 13 Eagles vs the Fins!

[Broadway Joe]

11 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said:

You guys are so Jekyll and Hyde after a Win and a Loss its hilarious. There was nothing wrong with the Goedert pick what so ever. Especially if you look at what Doug Pederson since the second he became HC has ATTEMPTED  (not successfully all the time) to do since being hired. Follow the Patriot Blue Print.

He saw Belicheck and Brady for years abuse Defenses with the 2 and 3 TE Packages. Saw how many mismatches you can create with a Stud TE and another of equal or very good talent opposite him. How friendly the TE is to a QB.

This was also an insurance policy for Ertz potentially getting hurt and Ertz potentially falling off a cliff with Age. Pederson's offense Requires a legit TE and Speed WR (Smith/Wallace/Desean). Goedert is still that just going through some dumb growing pains holding onto the ball.

You can't address every single hole in one offseason. They've attempted to do it in stages replacing older players failing miserably with some of those draft picks has been the problem!!! 2017 has killed us.

17' DE/CB/RB/Wr Barnett for BG, Sidney/Douglas, Pumprey for Sproles, Gibson speed WR.

18' TE/CB/DE Goedert , Maddox, Sweat

19' OL/RB/WR Dillard for Peters , JJ eventually for Alshon,  Sanders We Suck at RB

You also need to account for the Draft picks lost due to the Original WentzTrade and players Traded for over the years Darby, Ajahi, Tate ect.

I´ve always been consistent that the Goedert pick was too much of a luxury and that we suck at drafting. 

[Daimonas]

i think goedert could be a superstar in a couple years if he is the no1 tight end.

[Nabbs4u]

1 hour ago, Broadway Joe said:

I´ve always been consistent that the Goedert pick was too much of a luxury and that we suck at drafting. 

Certain positions like WR and CB, you're absolutely correct. Which is why they have tried acquiring said positions through FA/Trade.

TE, isn't one of them. 

[EaglesPeteC]

Everyone fired yet? 

[HDsportsfan]

11 hours ago, EagleBlueDon said:

I mean when the QB gets the ball out so quickly to a wide open receiver after 1.5 seconds, there's not much the DL can do. This game is all on Schwartz, Undlin, and every member of the secondary for me. Probably the linebackers too but I'd have to see the film. Every other unit played well enough to win. Doug calling  only 3 more run plays after going up 28-14 has me questioning him as a play caller though. I'm honestly done with Schwartz, you have to be able to adjust in-game. And he's shown time and time again that he is unable to.

I've seen ya'll rail a lot on Schwartz of late. Before the Lions HC gig wasn't he one of the most feared DC's? Or was that Spagnola. Either way he has had some good years as a DC. Maybe just not with you guys.

[HDsportsfan]

10 hours ago, Broadway Joe said:

2. The overvalue of the DL. This is something that angers me so much. Passing and neglecting other positions on defense because ¨we build through the trenches¨ is so stupid to me. That´s no way to built a unit and most important of all even if you have an elite DL, it is not sustainable from a week to week basis to expect them to dominate. That has been exposed more times that I can count even on 2017. 

Your thoughts are interesting on the trenches. Many in out forum, pretty much me included, subscribe to the invest heavily on OL and DL. It all starts up from on both sides of the ball. A good D-line takes pressure of the DB's with a good pash rush. And always rotating the DL to keep them all fresh. Our DC, Marinelli, absolutely refuses to invest in a true 1T nose tackle and we get run on constantly. Outside of our LB'ers for some reason suddenly over running plays and forgetting how to tackle. Not sure how in the hell we're 6 over in D. Makes no sense.

Edited December 3, 2019 by HDsportsfan

[EagleBlueDon]

9 minutes ago, HDsportsfan said:

I've seen ya'll rail a lot on Schwartz of late. Before the Lions HC gig wasn't he one of the most feared DC's? Or was that Spagnola. Either way he has had some good years as a DC. Maybe just not with you guys.

He doesn't adjust to when his guys are clearly struggling and in need of help. Runs super simple coverages and leaves his guys in man when they aren't capable of sticking to their guys. He's stubborn to a major fault. He has his ride or die guys he refuses to give up on. We could do way worse for sure, and I'm probably overreacting, but what I said above is all true and honestly I'm over it.

[TwoUpTwoDown]

8 hours ago, EagleBlueDon said:

This team is a see-saw that can never all get on the same page. Offense plays good, defense plays bad, and vice versa legit every single week. There really hasn't been a single complete game played this year.

So true. Been thinking about this a lot lately.

[ninjapirate]

14 minutes ago, HDsportsfan said:

I've seen ya'll rail a lot on Schwartz of late. Before the Lions HC gig wasn't he one of the most feared DC's? Or was that Spagnola. Either way he has had some good years as a DC. Maybe just not with you guys.

He has a few good years as a DC but also a lot of mediocre ones as well 

[Kiltman]

All things considered, Schwartz is the lesser of our problems...he at least tends to fix things or make the best he can.

Meanwhile the offensive staff can do a thing when like 1 player goes down.

[ninjapirate]

6 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

All things considered, Schwartz is the lesser of our problems...he at least tends to fix things or make the best he can.

Meanwhile the offensive staff can do a thing when like 1 player goes down.

he still needs to go as well

[EagleBlueDon]

32 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

All things considered, Schwartz is the lesser of our problems...he at least tends to fix things or make the best he can.

Meanwhile the offensive staff can do a thing when like 1 player goes down.

Really I don't think Schwartz fixes anything and is stubborn. Trusts his guys too much. I know it was only 1 game but I don't see how every team uses this as a blueprint. 3 and 5 step drops and throw. If the Dolphins and their sorry personnel can do it, how can't literally every other team not? 38 points to the Dolphins is a fireable offense.

[RandyMossIsBoss]

The Dolphins game is kind of weird with judging the D, because I feel like 150+ of Fitz's yards, including several big conversions/TDs, were lobs to WRs who then proceeded to SON our sorry CBs. They were in position, just pathetically outplayed at the point of the catch. Can't blame Schwartz when execution was as poor as it was... although at the end of the day, 38 points to the Dolphins, if you can't figure out a way to slow them down then you are not doing a very good job. That's why I am no fan of Schwartz, he seems to never adjust. 

[Kiltman]

3 hours ago, ninjapirate said:

he still needs to go as well

I'm ok with that...just don't know who we are gonna get that is any better.
Maybe I just remember vividly the post Jim Johnson life of aimless lousy defense. 

Is some else going to create a top 10 D with no real LBs, empty cabinet of corners and really secondary? A 30+ year old safety is our one piece and he wants a new deal.
Will they be able to pad our short squat DE's ability to get to a QB like Jim? or will that also become a massive hole?

The man gets like no assets, and the ones he does get always end up on the injury list or IR.

If they want to do a deep clean (Jim and Groh, Welch, Press Taylor and the defensive staff)...fine by me. 
But I don't think Jim staying is a inst-fail like the rest. What would the defense be with real Corners and a LB? What if we got a universally good pass rusher?

 

for two years the offensive staff has killed this team. That's priority one for me.
But if a nuke is on the menu, so be it...just hope they have a plan to fix it.

Ima make a thread
 

[Jroc04]

Had McDermott....oh well