Mr Bad Example Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 17 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: This is exacerbated by the guys that came after him across a number of positions, Donald, mack iirc Obj, Mike Evans. He has got every dollar out of his average career, rookie contract and then a hefty contract with the cheifs. It's not talked about because most people realised this after he went from Buffalo to the Rams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I mean to be fair technically it's True based on where he was drafted. But I feel like he has finally found an offense he fits well in. He does well and despite being a "draft bust" he isnt a total bust as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 More of a disappointment than a bust. A bust to me has always been a guy who offers virtually no value. But honestly, I have no idea how he is as unproductive in this offense as he is. He does some things well. Like he's a surprisingly good run blocker. But I dunno if hes running lazy routes or Mahomes doesn't trust him or what. But he should be way more productive than he is, based on just skill and supporting cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I wanted Metcalf in the 2nd round so bad. Would have been a great replacement for Sammy in our offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 5 hours ago, BayRaider said: Never trade up for a WR. It’s proven over 53 years of SB History to be the absolute 100% least impactful position. I mean, the Falcons at least selected a very good WR, but I think no matter who the WR is, a trade up is bad. Trading up for Julio Jones was an objectively good trade up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Trading up for Julio Jones was an objectively good trade up though. No SB Title and we have no idea if those two other 1sts would of made a decent enough impact at different positions. Not as good as Julio but let’s say they land a B+ OT and B+ EDGE. Two much more important positions. Look at all 53 SB Champions. It literally has been the least important position by far. 80%+ didn’t have a 1st Round WR and the ones who usually did, were non factors such as Nelson Aghoular and Demariyus Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Strongly disagree. Watkins is the #2 receiver on a team that's #2 seed in the AFC conference. He's injury prone, but the dude can play when he's healthy. Utilizing Watkins behind Tyreek Hill in the case of Hill getting double covered is exactly where Andy Reid wants him. If he was truly a bust, he wouldn't be playing for Kansas City. It's just asinine to think otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggio7 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 It's not his fault he was drafted so high. Calling players busts is silly. Put blame on the organizations for misjudging talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 12 hours ago, wwhickok said: I mean to be fair technically it's True based on where he was drafted. But I feel like he has finally found an offense he fits well in. He does well and despite being a "draft bust" he isnt a total bust as a player. As Jakuvious said, more "disappointment" than "bust" - he's certainly not a worthless player, but he's been a low level WR2/good WR3 type guy for the past several years, and never plays 16 games. Certainly performing far below what his draft position and contracts suggest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Is this a tweet of a bust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ataal Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Bust is a bit harsh. When I think of bust, I think of guys like A.J. Jenkins. 1st round WR pick by the Niners. Not a single reception his rookie year and was traded to the Chiefs the following season. Less than 20 receptions for his whole "career," if you want to call it that. Probably better examples out there, but it's kind of a running joke in the Niners forum every time someone gets their first catch on the team, someone always says, "[Insert Name] has just surpassed A.J. Jenkins on the Niners' all-time catch record." And, it's hilarious every time. lol Edited January 1, 2020 by Ataal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 16 hours ago, BayRaider said: Never trade up for a WR. It’s proven over 53 years of SB History to be the absolute 100% least impactful position. I mean, the Falcons at least selected a very good WR, but I think no matter who the WR is, a trade up is bad. The Julio trade up was a slam dunk. Your trade up statement can be made for any position...the key is that you hit. Watkins was a miss. He’s been OK. He’s a solid #2-3 WR. But expectations are much higher when you use that much draft capital....ok isn’t good enough. I’m ok calling Watkins a bust. But at least he helped fantasy footballers in week 1 of this season, though I suspect he was on lots of benches...because though he’s in one if the most prolific passing games in NFL history...he’s still just a guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 12 hours ago, BayRaider said: No SB Title and we have no idea if those two other 1sts would of made a decent enough impact at different positions. Not as good as Julio but let’s say they land a B+ OT and B+ EDGE. Two much more important positions. Go back and look through the Falcons draft selections during the early Julio Jones era and tell me if you can recognize any of those names. The 2011-2013 era was a horrid era for drafting. It's a bunch of "literally who?" dudes. Do you know how many bust offensive linemen/pass rushers we've had in the Dimitrioff era? Too many to count. It's just a position we can't draft well at all. Our best pass rusher that we've ever drafted is a defensive tackle. Vic Beasley is the most obvious example of a pass rusher bust, but he's not the only one and we're likely going to get more Vic Beasley's the more pass rushers we draft. Wide Receiver isn't the most important position in the world, but we got way more value out of it than selecting an OT and a DE who would have painfully busted. Our only hope at those positions is free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 23 hours ago, rocky_rams said: No he wasn’t. He was our second best option after Woods. He also made things easier for other receivers because defenses had to respect his vertical threat and he was a good red zone option for us. Woods, Kupp, and Gurley were all ahead of him in the pecking order that year. Goff didn't trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 15 hours ago, BayRaider said: No SB Title and we have no idea if those two other 1sts would of made a decent enough impact at different positions. Not as good as Julio but let’s say they land a B+ OT and B+ EDGE. Two much more important positions. Look at all 53 SB Champions. It literally has been the least important position by far. 80%+ didn’t have a 1st Round WR and the ones who usually did, were non factors such as Nelson Aghoular and Demariyus Thomas. DeMaryius Thomas was a nonfactor on the 2015 Broncos? What? 21 hours ago, BayRaider said: Never trade up for a WR. It’s proven over 53 years of SB History to be the absolute 100% least impactful position. I mean, the Falcons at least selected a very good WR, but I think no matter who the WR is, a trade up is bad. Bad teams abide by silly rules like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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