showtime Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I put this thread in Seattle's team forum, but figured it might be a cool discussion piece here. What do you all think of this? https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-seattle-seahawks-qb-russell-wilson-pffs-most-valuable-player This season, the data points to the fact that no player added greater value to their team than Russell Wilson did for the Seattle Seahawks. Wilson ended the season comfortably ahead of Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Lamar Jackson, Kirk Cousins, among others. Reflecting the fact that quarterbacks are by far the most valuable players in football, the 23 highest WAR figures were all passers I know how some of you all feel about PFF, but I'm just posting this as a conversation piece. Quite frankly, I was kind of shocked about this because I figured Lamar Jackson would just be the run away MVP. The playoff game vs the Packers where Wilson was pretty much carrying the team displays what he means to the Seahawks. Their defense is really inconsistent and it seems like Wilson has to have a great game for them to have a chance to win against a quality opponent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherm Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I'd like Russ a lot more if he didn't play in the NFCW. But dude is super talented. Had an amazing yr though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukos Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I understand what PFF is trying to do, but literally zero MVP voters think of the MVP award as the guy who contributes the most to winning. MVP goes to the leader of whatever the best offense in the NFL was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 No questions asked.. Seattle was a 7-9 team the whole year.. They won by his sheer greatness.. Wilson is what people think of Rodgers or did before. Dudes a freaking stud and makes things happen with little help. Dudes unreal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 He was clutch most of the time. But his play dropped notably towards the last third or so of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 My favorite QB. 1st ballot HOFer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showtime Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Danger said: He was clutch most of the time. But his play dropped notably towards the last third or so of the season. Objectively speaking, I agree with this. I've mentioned this a few times, but he wasn't all that great statistically towards like the second half of the season when he was the MVP front runner. The thing about Seattle is that they won so many of their games by one possession and almost all of their games came down to the wire. Their defense is so inconsistent - they usually get torched in the first half and play better in the second half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJerseypaint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 What is most amazing is how manages to pull out elite performances with Brian Schottenheimer as his OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolsurebro Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I don't see how he contributed more to his team than Lamar did for the Ravens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animaltested Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, NJerseypaint said: What is most amazing is how manages to pull out elite performances with Brian Schottenheimer as his OC. To build off this, Seattle had one of the higher passing efficiency ratings, while having one of the worst pass blocking units in the NFL. Russell Wilson was a quarter inch away from sweeping the 49ers, with guys like Travis Homer, Jacob Hollister, David Moore and a rookie WR that cant run routes being important offensive targets. And who knows what happens in Green Bay if Malik Turner doesn't drop that pass. Here is something to consider; in the last few weeks of the season and playoffs, Germaine Ifedi was probably the 3rd best offensive player (Non Russell) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Gotta be Lamar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Yeah, Wilson was deserving of MVP IMO. I would love to see what he could do without Pete Carroll holding him back in the first half of nearly every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Bill Polian liked this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 The Seahawks were like (10-2) in games decided by 7pts or less. Thats insane for any team for a single season. Wilson was really the main reason the Seahawks had the season that they had. Now with that being said, the game against the Rams in Seattle on a 3rd and 1 he did some option play that hurt them. Took them out of FG range and at best ice the game by picking up a first down. The team had to punt the ball back to the Rams and Goff drove down the field and Zeurlien missed the GW FG. In OT against the Niners, Wilson threw an interception. The Niners marched down the field and their kicker missed the GW FG and that gave Wilson another chance and he eventually did what he does best and the Seahawks won the game. So I thought even with his brilliance this season he had some luck on his side in games where he almost cost his team. The Saints game was a blow out in which Wilson got alot of garbage time stats to make the score look alot closer than what it really was. So Lamar really is the run away MVP because of the complete body of work of the entire season but Wilson definitely deserves to be second because of what he was able to do to make the Seahawks even be in position to be considered the 1 seed heading into Week 17 in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 yeah, i would have him as MVP as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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