skywindO2 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: I'm sure you know this, but you can often get around article limits by clearing your cookies. I ate mine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, N4L said: Newspapers were already struggling to begin with an online advertising money is down 40% according to Google. So I understand if companies can't afford to just give their products away right now Unfortunate that news companies are privately owned but that's another discussion entirely They can set a filter for just coronavirus stories. The Baltimore Sun has done that with coverage of the 2015 riots and the well-covered murder of six employees from their sister publication in 2018. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 54 minutes ago, naptownskinsfan said: This is an aside, but I hate that there are still publications that are making you sign up, create accounts, or even worse, limit your reading for articles related to coronavirus during this time. I know the NY Times just makes you have an account, but you shouldn't have to give out any personal information in a time like this. People want news and information in times like this, and as someone who has been involved in the journalism field in the past, I know it's been a shifting industry and times are tough. But have some restraint. The Baltimore Sun from the Tribune Media Company has done unlimited views for big public stories since the 2015 Baltimore riots. Really, really bad form on some of these outlets. Yeah I’m glad they lifted the paywall though. It’s the right thing to do. You shouldn’t need an account though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 It’s their choice and I’m not suggesting a mandate or anything but papers like the Times that have chosen to make those free to everyone are doing the right thing I re subscribed to the Times recently after I heard that, suggest others who enjoy these papers do the same to support them, because they are struggling and they do great work even if most people consume their reporting second hand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rob_shadows Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, candyman93 said: The good news is a lot of what they are talking about is exactly why if it there if there is another outbreak later this year it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad because of how many people will have already been exposed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 minute ago, rob_shadows said: The good news is a lot of what they are talking about is exactly why if it there if there is another outbreak later this year it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad because of how many people will have already been exposed. And medical advances wave 2 won’t be as bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4/1/2020 MoL Scores: Today a few countries slipped into Tier 4, a new country jumps back into Tier 2, and the MoL discovers the timeline. Tier 1: Outbreak under control, safe to begin relaxing social distancing measures China: 0.8 South Korea: 2.4 Tier 2: New case growth is minimal suggesting social distancing is working, likely a few weeks away from breaking into tier 1 Italy: 7.3 Austria: 8.1 Switzerland: 8.7 Australia: 10.5 (lets all just admit mission was right @Shady Slim) Hong Kong: 12.2 (back in Tier 2 after a brief trip into Tier 3, as the MoL projected) Tier 3: Countries in this group that are showing increased MoLs have the potential to go deep into the danger zones, but countries with falling MoLs may only be a couple of days from tier 2 status and may have already peaked in gross # of new cases Netherlands: 12.4 Germany: 14.7 Spain: 15.0 (FYI there was a calculation error in yesterday's MoLs, that our minions alerted us to, this should have been a 16.4 yesterday) Iran: 16.2 France: 19.0 Portugal: 19.2 Tier 4: Aggressive growth, still likely have not peaked in single day cases, and likely a week or two minimum from peak in deaths (however many of these countries are still slowing down) Israel: 20.8 Brazil: 20.9 Belgium: 21.8 UK: 21.9 USA: 22.2 Canada: 22.9 India: 28.0 (big league negative movement... it could be bad, or it could be nothing... we shall see) Turkey: 35.9 Today the MoL also releases THE TIMELINE 1. The virus circulates in the community undetected and community infection rates build up for (1.5-2 months) CHINA: Mid-November through early January EUROPE: Sometime in January to late February US: Sometime in January to early March 2. The virus has infected enough people to become a public health crisis, major hotspots develop, and public health experts / governments institute social distancing... the virus continues to build for at least another (1-2 months) despite public health measures CHINA: Mid-January to mid-February EUROPE: Early March through likely mid/late April, based on slow of new cases across Europe US: Mid-March through likely early/mid May, probably 2-3 weeks behind Europe, some tail risk it lasts longer due to travel between states and patch-work lockdown policies 3. The virus has peaked but still a steady drip of new infections and deaths as the overall active case numbers come down, most social distancing measures likely can't be relaxed for another (1 month) CHINA: Mid February to late March EUROPE: Likely to be mid/late April to sometime in May US: Likely to be early/mid May through late May or early June 4. Virus is under control and social distancing can be relaxed although not eliminated (about 4.5 months after start of outbreak) CHINA: Early April [Hubei lockdown already lifted, Wuhan on April 8th] EUROPE: Mid-late May [If I had to pick a date, probably around May 15th but will vary by country] US: Late May or early June [Date of June 1st does not seem unreasonable although it could start sometime in May] ---- In the opinion of the MoL, the timeline the White House is quoting where we are in total lockdown until at least April 30th but 'getting back to normal' around June 1st is pretty reasonable, plus or minus a few weeks, again with some tail risk that this stretches on longer due to patch work response and open borders between states (although I think that risk is somewhat overstated... most of the spread here is within communities and there is fairly limited travel between regions right now, there is some risk that if there is a late breaking outbreak in say Florida or Texas we'd need to figure out how to keep that region more or less quarantined) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Didn’t China just close down all their movie theaters again due to the lack of control they have over the virus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Glen said: Didn’t China just close down all their movie theaters again due to the lack of control they have over the virus? They are taking precautionary measures to avoid a second wave of imported cases. The viruses is more under control than any other country tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, mission27 said: 4/1/2020 MoL Scores: Today a few countries slipped into Tier 4, a new country jumps back into Tier 2, and the MoL discovers the timeline. Tier 1: Outbreak under control, safe to begin relaxing social distancing measures China: 0.8 South Korea: 2.4 Tier 2: New case growth is minimal suggesting social distancing is working, likely a few weeks away from breaking into tier 1 Italy: 7.3 Austria: 8.1 Switzerland: 8.7 Australia: 10.5 (lets all just admit mission was right @Shady Slim) Hong Kong: 12.2 (back in Tier 2 after a brief trip into Tier 3, as the MoL projected) Tier 3: Countries in this group that are showing increased MoLs have the potential to go deep into the danger zones, but countries with falling MoLs may only be a couple of days from tier 2 status and may have already peaked in gross # of new cases Netherlands: 12.4 Germany: 14.7 Spain: 15.0 (FYI there was a calculation error in yesterday's MoLs, that our minions alerted us to, this should have been a 16.4 yesterday) Iran: 16.2 France: 19.0 Portugal: 19.2 Tier 4: Aggressive growth, still likely have not peaked in single day cases, and likely a week or two minimum from peak in deaths (however many of these countries are still slowing down) Israel: 20.8 Brazil: 20.9 Belgium: 21.8 UK: 21.9 USA: 22.2 Canada: 22.9 India: 28.0 (big league negative movement... it could be bad, or it could be nothing... we shall see) Turkey: 35.9 Today the MoL also releases THE TIMELINE 1. The virus circulates in the community undetected and community infection rates build up for (1.5-2 months) CHINA: Mid-November through early January EUROPE: Sometime in January to late February US: Sometime in January to early March 2. The virus has infected enough people to become a public health crisis, major hotspots develop, and public health experts / governments institute social distancing... the virus continues to build for at least another (1-2 months) despite public health measures CHINA: Mid-January to mid-February EUROPE: Early March through likely mid/late April, based on slow of new cases across Europe US: Mid-March through likely early/mid May, probably 2-3 weeks behind Europe, some tail risk it lasts longer due to travel between states and patch-work lockdown policies 3. The virus has peaked but still a steady drip of new infections and deaths as the overall active case numbers come down, most social distancing measures likely can't be relaxed for another (1 month) CHINA: Mid February to late March EUROPE: Likely to be mid/late April to sometime in May US: Likely to be early/mid May through late May or early June 4. Virus is under control and social distancing can be relaxed although not eliminated (about 4.5 months after start of outbreak) CHINA: Early April [Hubei lockdown already lifted, Wuhan on April 8th] EUROPE: Mid-late May [If I had to pick a date, probably around May 15th but will vary by country] US: Late May or early June [Date of June 1st does not seem unreasonable although it could start sometime in May] ---- In the opinion of the MoL, the timeline the White House is quoting where we are in total lockdown until at least April 30th but 'getting back to normal' around June 1st is pretty reasonable, plus or minus a few weeks, again with some tail risk that this stretches on longer due to patch work response and open borders between states (although I think that risk is somewhat overstated... most of the spread here is within communities and there is fairly limited travel between regions right now, there is some risk that if there is a late breaking outbreak in say Florida or Texas we'd need to figure out how to keep that region more or less quarantined) So what is the number beside each country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, mission27 said: They are taking precautionary measures to avoid a second wave of imported cases. The viruses is more under control than any other country tho. How do you determine their state of control? The numbers they give? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, Glen said: How do you determine their state of control? The numbers they give? Numbers they give and actions they are taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Quote Q1: Will COVID-19 have negative impacts on global food security? ... Border closures, quarantines, and market, supply chain and trade disruptions could restrict people’s access to sufficient/diverse and nutritious sources of food, especially in countries hit hard by the virus or already affected by high levels of food insecurity. But there is no need for the world to panic. Globally, there is enough food for everyone. Policy makers around the world need to be careful not to repeat the mistakes made during the 2007-08 food crisis, and turn this health crisis into an entirely avoidable food crisis... ... As of April, May, we expect disruptions in the food supply chains. For example: restrictions of movement, as well as basic aversion behaviour by workers, may impede farmers from farming and food processors - who handle the vast majority of agricultural products - from processing. Shortage of fertilizers, veterinary medicines and other input could affect agricultural production. Closures of restaurants and less frequent grocery shopping diminish demand for fresh produce and fisheries products, affecting producers and suppliers. Sectors in agriculture, fisheries and aquaculture are particularly affected by restrictions on tourism, closure of restaurants and café and school meals suspension... Source: Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said: So what is the number beside each country? The MoL score (proprietary measure of coronavirus spread) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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