vikesfan89 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html The WHO says it's rare for asymptomatic patients to spread the disease. I thought that was the main reason it was spreading so quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html The WHO says it's rare for asymptomatic patients to spread the disease. I thought that was the main reason it was spreading so quickly From the article: Quote But WHO officials now say that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it’s being transmitted... She acknowledged that some studies have indicated asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread in nursing homes and in household settings. More research and data are needed to “truly answer” the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added... It does happen though. It's a new virus. As time goes on new information is gathered from studies and observations. The different mutations could also behave differently as well. In the beginning, you have to be even more careful because you don't know what you don't know. Better safe than sorry. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 minute ago, kingseanjohn said: From the article: It does happen though. It's a new virus. As time goes on new information is gathered from studies and observations. The different mutations could also behave differently as well. In the beginning, you have to be even more careful because you don't know what you don't know. Better safe than sorry. It happens but it's rare is what they are saying. I'm just wondering how it spread that fast if that's true. Since this all started I don't think there has been that many people out and about with symptoms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 8 hours ago, kingseanjohn said: Texas Medical Center in Houston suggests that ICU capacity could be exceeded in two weeks. Source https://abc13.com/6238157/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook There's been a lot of gatherings in Houston lately, and it looks as if we're seeing increases from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, ET80 said: https://abc13.com/6238157/?ex_cid=TA_KTRK_FB&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook There's been a lot of gatherings in Houston lately, and it looks as if we're seeing increases from that. In other news, water is wet. Unfortunately going to happen everywhere.... Edited June 9, 2020 by JTagg7754 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriously27 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, vikesfan89 said: It happens but it's rare is what they are saying. I'm just wondering how it spread that fast if that's true. Since this all started I don't think there has been that many people out and about with symptoms All of their information is coming from contact tracking though so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that just yet. It's honestly kind of ridiculous for them to put out this statement. Remember that for contact tracking to work, you have to have someone test positive for the virus. It's also rare for someone who is asymptomatic to have gotten tested for the virus. Then you have to follow that person and see who they infected.....but if the people they infected are also asymptomatic, then they most likely won't be tested either. Only people who show symptoms. It's also important to note that the main way this virus(and most virus) are passed is through our respiratory system. So coughing and sneezing. So while people do cough and such while not sick, people who are asymptomatic are not doing it very often. So people who show symptoms are also way more likely to pass it on than people who are not, just by the nature of the virus. Then when you add the social distancing measure on top of everything you can really conclude that social distancing also adds to the likelihood that someone who is asymptomatic is not spreading disease as breathing out the virus is less likely to push through a mask than a cough would. I honestly can't believe some of the stuff that comes out sometimes. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seriously27 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 13 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: @Shanedorf @seriously27 we have reading to do: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2404-8_reference.pdf I like the ideas they were using but when you look at their data collection methods and you see things like Chinese government website, Github and Wikipedia it throws a little bit of question into their findings. They also state that they don't know the exact number for f as it's constantly fluctuating so they state right off the bat that their numbers are possibly outside a normal range of accuracy. They do state that their findings need to be repeated though so at least they recognize that what they found is not exactly going to be accepted off of this research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 13 hours ago, ET80 said: Afterwards, all of you tell me where I should invest money in... what if you lose your life savings tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, mission27 said: what if you lose your life savings tbh Not like I have more than a week to live, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSUeagles14 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ET80 said: Not like I have more than a week to live, tbh. didnt want to press the football and have you thinking I was looking forward to your death, so Ill give it a verbal like and say i got a chuckle out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Good News Guy back again to break you from the doom and gloom. Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine starts production with goal of 2 billion doses ready to go by September. Not sure they'd spend the resources and time to produce at this scale unless they're very optimistic. I could be wrong but it does warrant some consideration https://indianexpress.com/article/coronavirus/corona-covid-19-vaccine-update-june-oxford-astrazeneca-moderna-serum-institute-of-india-6447030/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Free: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/mapping-spread-new-coronavirus/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/coronavirus/ https://www.nytimes.com/news-event/coronavirus?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20200608&instance_id=19194&nl=coronavirus-briefing®i_id=127802529&segment_id=30390&te=1&user_id=0ec3b530f45ff5c070e34ae9b6fc8ea1 Maybe free: Five Ways to Monitor the Coronavirus Outbreak in the U.S. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/23/upshot/five-ways-to-monitor-coronavirus-outbreak-us.html Not free: Some covid-19 patients taken off ventilators are taking days or even weeks to wake up ‘It’s a big deal,’ says a Weill Cornell neurologist. The consequences range from mental fog, and mild memory lapses, to severe neurological problems. Quote After five days on a ventilator because of covid-19, Susham “Rita” Singh seemed to have turned a corner. Around midnight on April 8, doctors at Houston Methodist Hospital turned off the sedative drip that had kept the previously healthy 65-year-old in a medically induced coma. “The expectation is that you should start waking up after six hours, 12 hours or a day,” said her daughter, Silky Singh Pahlajani, a neurologist in New York City. “But it was six-and-a-half days before she started … opening her eyes. I thought she had suffered a massive stroke. “Her brain MRI was normal, which was great, but then the question became: What’s going on?” That question is baffling neurologists and rehabilitation physicians treating patients with severe covid-19 cases. A significant number of those who have spent long periods on ventilators are taking days or weeks — rather than hours — to awaken from medically induced comas. “The magnitude of the covid-19 pandemic will result in substantial neurological disease,” the paper stated. “The sheer volume of those suffering critical illness is likely to result in an increased burden of long-term cognitive impairment.” Another recent paper, from Wuhan, China, described how 13 of 88 patients hospitalized with severe acute respiratory syndrome, or 14.8 percent, experienced “impaired consciousness” after being removed from ventilators. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/07/coronavirus-ventilators-prolonged-comas/?utm_campaign=wp_for_you&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_personalizedforyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/852155076/how-what-you-flush-is-helping-track-coronavirus "The idea is that measuring overall virus levels in sewage over time could indicate whether an outbreak is growing or shrinking, potentially showing that trend earlier than patient testing would. "That's a real-time measurement of what's happening in the community," Wigginton said. "Whereas some other tools we have, like the number of confirmed cases in clinics, sometimes those are delayed by quite a bit of time because people don't go get checked until maybe their illness has progressed by quite a bit." The approach is already used for other diseases such as polio. Health officials are working to eradicate polio around the globe, and in Israel, an outbreak was spotted early through the wastewater system. " This monitoring system can also detect large concentrations of people who have ****-for-brains, but the researchers said they are not allowed to release that info for fear of embarrassing the residents of certain states like minnesota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ET80 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, GSUeagles14 said: didnt want to press the football and have you thinking I was looking forward to your death, so Ill give it a verbal like and say i got a chuckle out of it. I'm ALL about the footballs, so don't worry about what I think... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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