AFC South Discussion Thread

[pwny]

49 minutes ago, TitanLegend said:

Lewan has allowed 7 total pressures all season which is tied for the fewest in the NFL and Conklin sits at 15, 18th fewest, or if you remove the Oakland game, he drops to just 10 on the season which would tie him for 5th fewest.

While having help on 45.3 and 42.1% of passes. Oh, and the Titans also have passed less than all but one team in the NFL. So yes, the two Tackles who have pass protected with no help less than every single other OT in the league should have low numbers to the raw numbers they allow.

Tennessee’s sacked percentage is 11th in the NFL for your offense. That’s including the insanely high level of help they get. That pass protection hasn’t been anything special.

[TitanLegend]

Just now, iPwn said:

While having help on 45.3 and 42.1% of passes. Oh, and the Titans also have passed less than all but one team in the NFL. So yes, the two Tackles who have pass protected with no help less than every single other OT in the league should have low numbers to the raw numbers they allow.

Tennessee’s sacked percentage is 11th in the NFL for your offense. That’s including the insanely high level of help they get. That pass protection hasn’t been anything special.

If there were an issue of them getting beat when by themselves, then the help % would be a concern, but there isn't one. You can watch them play on an island and see that they don't need the help. They just get it because that's how Mularkey's offense works. And that's a large reason you see Titans fans complain. We have the offensive line capable of protecting Mariota just by themselves and wish there were more 4-5 wide sets/spreading out the defense, and according to reporters at training camp, that was an emphasis coming in to this year. But Davis going out seemingly put a hold on that(plus Decker failing to live up to what we'd hoped).

Yes, and that sacked percentage is greatly inflated by the 8 total sacks taken by Cassel, and we gave up 6 in the Miami game with Cassel at QB(Mariota has been sacked 5 times all year as a comparison), and it was a game where the o-line definitely played one of it's worst games, but also dealt with Lewan being out for over half the game due to injury. Cassel was sacked 8 times overall in his play for us this year which is just the 2nd half of the Houston game(which the offense had clearly given up in the Houston game with Mariota out, and we weren't winning it regardless so whatever) and the Miami game.

So Cassel 8 sacks in 1 and a half games, Mariota 5 sacks in 5 and a half games.

As this statistic shows, only Carr has received better pass pro this year than Mariota:

And Carr is so ahead of Mariota(and everyone else on this list) in large part due to how quickly he gets rid of the ball. He has the quickest average time before pass in the NFL this season at 2.19 seconds. Mariota is 16th at 2.64. The other guys on this list are Big Ben(2.44 which is 4th fastest), Brees(2.45 5th fastest) and Eli(2.45 as well). So out of the 5 least pressured QBs, Mariota holds on to the ball the longest which obviously makes it even more difficult on the o-line.

[SerenityNow]

For the life of me I can't figure out how to get gifs to post on the new forum.

Edited November 3, 2017 by SerenityNow

[KingTitan]

8 hours ago, KhanYouDigIt said:

Your OT’s get the most help in the NFL tbh

 

Personally, I don't care if they get help 100% of the snaps. 

Keeping the QB upright and able to complete passes is #1 priority. 

If that nullifies a team's strength pass rushing, then go for it. We've won doing this. Maybe not the way some would like, putting up the numbers some would like but it's worked.  When QB is on it, it works.

[Titans fan 617]

I don’t have a problem with it and it’s usually Delanie helping my issue is why can’t Robiskie find ways to get Jonnu Smith involved if Delanie is being triple teamed or used for blocking 

[ragevsuall17]

Reason for optimism? Mariota is back fully healthy. We're 4-1 when Mariota plays a full game... 4-2 in games he starts... Including a thrashing of the Jags. 

[KingTitan]

I know the Jags defense has some sexy numbers and impressive games, but looking at the "power Rankings."  Some have them as many as 15-20 spots better than us.  Just don't think that's accurate. 

Like @ragevsuall17 said a healthy Marcus tilts the odds in our favors based on past performances.  

 

[titans0021]

[-Hope-]

On 11/3/2017 at 4:20 PM, iPwn said:

Tennessee’s sacked percentage is 11th in the NFL for your offense. That’s including the insanely high level of help they get. That pass protection hasn’t been anything special.

actually it has

[-Hope-]

and i'm hella disappointed in the way our line has blocked in the run game and think they're pretty overrated in that regard, but pass pro has been A+

[TitanLegend]

41 minutes ago, -Hope- said:

and i'm hella disappointed in the way our line has blocked in the run game and think they're pretty overrated in that regard, but pass pro has been A+

I agree, run blocking hasn't been up to last year's standards. With that said, the play of Murray and Henry hasn't been either. Their vision is disgusting, and not in a good way, often times.

[-Hope-]

4 hours ago, TitanLegend said:

I agree, run blocking hasn't been up to last year's standards. With that said, the play of Murray and Henry hasn't been either. Their vision is disgusting, and not in a good way, often times.

yeah for sure, every aspect of the run game is worse than last year

[VY-FTW]

Jag fans talking about last year like week 2 didnt happen :')

[titans0021]

Sounds like he's a distraction. Probably should cut him.

[TwoToneBlue]

1 minute ago, titans0021 said:

Sounds like he's a distraction. Probably should cut him.

Just coming to post this. 

Jags schedule is weak the rest of the way. A loss against the Bengals would be a big boost for us. Dalton against their secondary is still scary though.