MWil23 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, Slateman said: Is there a team that wouldn't want those players on their team? Is it possible they get so many because they get so much playing time? Make no mistake, I want Clowney opposite Myles. Myles had a LOT his first couple of years trying to time snap counts and work on his "get off the ball" explosiveness. I haven't watched Clowney nearly as much as Myles tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 10 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: No one is paying Dak what Dak thinks he's worth. With the NFL nearing peak QB saturation, it's going to get a little harder for them to get their way. Cam Newton is still unsigned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 10:37 PM, Forge said: It's a really good offer given where his market is. He should join Cleveland Yep, I wouldn’t expect him to make much more than that. Carlos Dunlap makes that same figure and is 4 years older. Very similar production over the last few years. And this doesn’t include penalties incurred, which very likely favours Dunlap. He’s one of the better defensive ends this past decade absolutely no one talks about. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Yep, I wouldn’t expect him to make much more than that. Carlos Dunlap makes that same figure and is 4 years older. Very similar production over the last few years. And this doesn’t include penalties incurred, which very likely favours Dunlap. He’s one of the better defensive ends this past decade absolutely no one talks about. Batted passes is an underrated statistic if you think about it. That is a pass defended for no gain. A greater impact than a pressure generally. You can pressure a QB and he still makes a great play. Also batted passes can result in easy INTs if ball is popped up. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: Yep, I wouldn’t expect him to make much more than that. Carlos Dunlap makes that same figure and is 4 years older. Very similar production over the last few years. And this doesn’t include penalties incurred, which very likely favours Dunlap. He’s one of the better defensive ends this past decade absolutely no one talks about. I was a huge Dunlap fan when he was coming out of Florida, I pegged him as another Mario Williams... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, ET80 said: I was a huge Dunlap fan when he was coming out of Florida, I pegged him as another Mario Williams... Dude has been so consistent over the last decade. Team captain too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, MWil23 said: Make no mistake, I want Clowney opposite Myles. Myles had a LOT his first couple of years trying to time snap counts and work on his "get off the ball" explosiveness. I haven't watched Clowney nearly as much as Myles tbh. Notice how most of the league leaders in penalties are premiere edge rushers. I think it's just a natural symptom of those guys timing the snap and trying to get every advantage they can in getting to the QB. Michael Bennett was a walking penalty in his Seattle days (appears he still is) but no one would ever complain about it because he was otherwise effective at getting a great jump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Tetsujin said: With the NFL nearing peak QB saturation, it's going to get a little harder for them to get their way. Cam Newton is still unsigned. Yup almost every team has their guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, KingOfTheDot said: Yup almost every team has their guy. I was thinking that too....like who are the Cowboys really negotiating with for Dak?? My dark horse answer is New England....but thats not really their style.....on the same token, NE would be a dark horse for Clowney also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Breer said the Browns revised their offer to Clowney - 1 year, $15M. Think that’s an overpay but Clowney’s crazy not to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Breer said the Browns revised their offer to Clowney - 1 year, $15M. Think that’s an overpay but Clowney’s crazy not to take it. It's possible it's something like $8mm guaranteed with the remaining in incentives. Unlikely that it's that bad, but it's possible. I'll never really put stock in the number either side reports until the full details come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 18 hours ago, dll2000 said: Batted passes is an underrated statistic if you think about it. Especially on 3rd down. It’s essentially a sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyRam Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Clowney should look at elevating his stock again. I believe he's good enough, but he went to the Seahawks where they had no other pass rush threat. He seemed to be double teamed on most, if not every, snap. You put Clowney in the Rams D next to AD and he puts up much better numbers than Fowler and he's just got $15m a year from the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 5:12 PM, HTTRDynasty said: It's possible it's something like $8mm guaranteed with the remaining in incentives. Unlikely that it's that bad, but it's possible. I'll never really put stock in the number either side reports until the full details come out. This. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that Clowney is simply using Cleveland for leverage to squeeze more nickels out of Seattle/Tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, SaveOurSonics said: This. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that Clowney is simply using Cleveland for leverage to squeeze more nickels out of Seattle/Tennessee. This wouldn’t surprise me at all. Players do this more times than casuals realize and they left Schefter be their voice. It wouldn’t shock me at all if Cleveland wasn’t even interested at all in Clowney and these stories were all made up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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