ronjon1990 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, jrry32 said: Carr probably wouldn't have made it unless he landed in a perfect situation. He admitted he didn't act right as a young QB. Same can be said for a lot of guys though. Situation matters. I have no doubt he wasn't a choir boy, but he wasn't Matt Leinart either. Plus, we've seen doofuses rebound and become fairly decent players/people, like Roethlisberger. I just mean that Carr had some talent that went wasted. Exceptional? Perhaps not. But again, he wasn't clearly devoid of talent like a Leinart either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: Except he wasn't ruined. And despite his failures, he probably benefited from the actual experience regardless. That's the point. He wasn't ruined because McVay undid the damage that Fisher did. Your point is problematic. But it's impossible to refute because you've already decided that any QB who failed would have failed anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Tua still isnt in ..ugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, jrry32 said: He wasn't ruined because McVay undid the damage that Fisher did. Your point is problematic. But it's impossible to refute because you've already decided that any QB who failed would have failed anyways. It's almost like it's true or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 James Robinson scored his 3rd rush TD of the season in the 4th qtr. JAX had 3 rush TD in 2019 (fewest in NFL since 2005 wow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: Was it experience or actually being surrounded by a competent staff and team? Your're putting WAY too much emphasis on experience. Seriously. I don't think Goff benefitted from his rookie experience. He wasn't harmed by it in the long term because of McVay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Gaskin or Gesicki TD and I forgive Miami for the worst coasting I’ve ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Trent Edwards? wut Yes, Trent Edwards. The guy had a solid skill set and showed some early promise before the Bills let him get Jordan Cameron'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, JAF-N72EX said: Was it experience or actually being surrounded by a competent staff and team? Your're putting WAY too much emphasis on experience. I said already that being on a competent team is huge. Your assertion is that starting a player as a rookie can 'ruin them'. That wasn't true of Goff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Either way, the Dolphins offense isn't even awful by any stretch. We actually seem to have a solid OL and decent weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: It's almost like it's true or something. LOL. Uh no. It's like saying, "President X isn't responsible for War X because any President in his shoes would have gone to war. And you can't tell me any different." That doesn't make you right. It just makes you unwilling to truly consider anybody else's points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, jrry32 said: Seriously. I don't think Goff benefitted from his rookie experience. He wasn't harmed by it in the long term because of McVay. Considering his rookie year, I'd say it's a testament to his ability that he didn't absolutely shrivel up. That whole situation looked like a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Screw Miami and their coasting, I wish a 3-13 season upon you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 James Robinson, you beautiful bastard. Keep gimme dem points, KEEP GIMMIE DEM POINTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: I said already that being on a competent team is huge. Your assertion is that starting a player as a rookie can 'ruin them'. That wasn't true of Goff. I didn't say that it would ruin them at all. Please don't put word in my mouth. I was simply saying that QB's CAN benefit from sitting for a year instead of throwing into the fire when your team is in disarray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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