mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, BigC421/ said: Are you suggesting Brady and the Pats had easy paths in the AFC every year? Can’t be serious. The juggernauts of the league resided in the AFC threw out the majority of that entire era. Pats, Colts, Ravens and Steelers were essentially the 4 best teams in football for some time. interesting thought just how many hof qbs has he beat in his tenure Ben roethlisberger Peyton manning beat him as much eli beat him twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC421/ Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, mtmmike said: interesting thought just how many hof qbs has he beat in his tenure Ben roethlisberger Peyton manning beat him as much eli beat him twice Ok he’s also beat Mahomes, Warner, Wilson, McNabb, Ryan ( let’s not dismiss how well he played that season/MVP), Rivers in his prime maybe not a great but very good qb with an absolutely LOADED roster. It’s also not all about the qb, Ravens, Steelers and Seahawks all had all time caliber defenses. He has beat everyone of these teams in either a Super Bowl or AFC championship . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, BigC421/ said: Ok he’s also beat Mahomes, Warner, Wilson, McNabb, Ryan ( let’s not dismiss how well he played that season/MVP), Rivers in his prime maybe not a great but very good qb with an absolutely LOADED roster. It’s also not all about the qb, Ravens, Steelers and Seahawks all had all time caliber defenses. He has beat everyone of these teams in either a Super Bowl or AFC championship . Excellent point if he does not get beat in the first round the road to the super bowl will be Rodgers (hof) Brees(hof) Wilson(hof) In a average season for him he would only play 1 hof qb Big ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie89 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Have we all forgotten the fact that Brady's defense has always been excellent in the playoffs. Even if he has an off game or two, it helps when your defense gives up an average of 20.6 points for your playoff career. Career postseason stats of 63% completion percentage, ~2.1 TD/INT ratio, and 89.8 passer rating is certainly good but does not scream GOAT in my book. Probably just rehashing old arguments and talking points but he has not been the sole reason to Pats were so successful. Bill and a defense that always seems to show up has been at least as important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, mtmmike said: In a average season for him he would only play 1 hof qb Big ben. 2019: Big Ben, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. 2018: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes (TWICE), Big Ben, Phillip Rivers. 2017: Drew Brees, Deshaun Watson, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, Carson Wentz. 2016: Big Ben (TWICE), Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan. 2015: Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Eli Manning. 2014: Peyton Manning (TWICE), Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers. 2013: Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Big Ben, Peyton Manning (TWICE), Andrew Luck. You were saying? Edited November 11, 2020 by Yin-Yang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: 2019: Big Ben, Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Carson Wentz. 2018: Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes (TWICE), Big Ben, Phillip Rivers. 2017: Drew Brees, Deshaun Watson, Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, Carson Wentz. 2016: Big Ben (TWICE), Russell Wilson, Matt Ryan. 2015: Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Eli Manning. 2014: Peyton Manning (TWICE), Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Phillip Rivers. 2013: Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Big Ben, Peyton Manning (TWICE), Andrew Luck. You were saying? ben has been out the last 2 years so strike him so he played mahomes you were saying that and Pittsburgh has not made the playoffs in2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Also he is 1-2 this year. against 2 hof qb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Here are the performances of the QB on the other team in the 9 Brady Super Bowls: Kurt Warner 78.3 rating Jake Delhomme 113.6 rating Donovan McNabb 75.4 rating Eli Manning 87.3 rating Eli Manning 103.7 rating Wilson 110.6 rating Matt Ryan 144.1 rating Nick Foles 106.1 rating Jared Goff 57.9 rating Here are the ratings of the QBs from Manning's Super Bowls: Rex Grossman 68.3 Drew Brees 114.5 Russell Wilson 123.1 Cam Newton 55.4 Here are the ratings of the QBs from Aikman's Super Bowls: Kelly 58.9 rating Reich 60.4 rating Kelly 67.1 rating O'Donnell 51.3 rating Here are the ratings of the QBs from Montana's Super Bowls: Ken Anderson 95.2 Dan Marino 66.9 Boomer Esiason 46.1 John Elway 19.4 rating Is there anyone who looks at those lists and thinks Brady had an easy button? 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 QBs who won a Super Bowl when the other QB had a 100+ rating: Brady x3 (Wilson, Ryan, Delhomme) Foles (Brady) Roethlisberger (Warner) Bradshaw (Staubach) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 it's funny when he does so bad. i like it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, mtmmike said: ben has been out the last 2 years so strike him so he played mahomes you were saying that and Pittsburgh has not made the playoffs in2 years False, Ben got hurt vs New England last year and was healthy for the game in 18. Your information is wrong, the logic behind justifying it (as in, judging SOS by QBs) is awful, but you can feel free to continue saying wrong, awful things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: False, Ben got hurt vs New England last year and was healthy for the game in 18. Your information is wrong, the logic behind justifying it (as in, judging SOS by QBs) is awful, but you can feel free to continue saying wrong, awful things. ok i will call you out and everybody else tom brady does not make it the super bowl this year. Edited November 11, 2020 by mtmmike error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just now, mtmmike said: lok i will you out and everybody tom brady does not make it the super bowl this year. Grow up. Your arguments have been DESTROYED. Now you've moved on to 'i bet you Tom doesn't make superbowl nerrr nerrrrr'. Jog on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 12 hours ago, BigC421/ said: Ok he’s also beat Mahomes, Warner, Wilson, McNabb, Ryan ( let’s not dismiss how well he played that season/MVP), Rivers in his prime maybe not a great but very good qb with an absolutely LOADED roster. It’s also not all about the qb, Ravens, Steelers and Seahawks all had all time caliber defenses. He has beat everyone of these teams in either a Super Bowl or AFC championship . ok i will say it right now Tom brady does not make it to the super bowl this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hunter2_1 said: Grow up. Your arguments have been DESTROYED. Now you've moved on to 'i bet you Tom doesn't make superbowl nerrr nerrrrr'. Jog on. you grow up the above for mentioned listed 6 years out of20. You left out tom brady road record Prediction Tom brady gets beat in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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