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46 minutes ago, MikeT14 said:

Saw something interesting. Rivera has never drafted an o-lineman in the 1st round with 9 picks. He's done it three times in the 2nd. 

Very interesting - well that makes me feel a little more confident that he won't reach for an OT, but if any of the top 3 slide I hope he would at least take a look, even if he values them a little lower.  

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2013 - 2/7

2 51 David Amerson CB Yes
3 85 Jordan Reed TE Yes
4 119 Phillip Thomas S No
5 154 Chris Thompson RB No
162 Brandon Jenkins DE No
6 191 Bacarri Rambo S No
7 228 Jawan Jamison RB No

 

2014 - 4/8 (pretty good)

2 47 Trent Murphy LB Yes
3 66 Morgan Moses OT Yes
78 Spencer Long G Yes
4 102 Bashaud Breeland CB Yes
5 142 Ryan Grant WR No
6 186 Lache Seastrunk RB No
7 217 Ted Bolser TE No
228 Zach Hocker K No

 

2015 - 2/10 (although Crowder contributed)

1 5 Brandon Scherff G Yes
2 38 Preston Smith DE Yes
3 95 Matt Jones RB No
4 105 Jamison Crowder WR No
112 Arie Kouandjio G No
5 141 Martrell Spaight LB No
6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett FS No
182 Tevin Mitchel CB No
187 Evan Spencer WR No
7 222 Austin Reiter C No

 

2016 - 3/7

1 22 Josh Doctson WR Yes
2 53 Su'a Cravens LB No
3 84 Kendall Fuller CB Yes
5 152 Matt Ioannidis DE Yes
6 187 Nate Sudfeld QB No
7 232 Steven Daniels LB No
242 Keith Marshall RB No

 

2017 - 3/10

1 17 Jonathan Allen DT Yes
2 49 Ryan Anderson LB No
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB No
4 114 Samaje Perine RB No
123 Montae Nicholson S Yes
5 154 Jeremy Sprinkle TE No
6 199 Chase Roullier C Yes
209 Robert Davis WR No
7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons LB No
235 Joshua Holsey CB No

 

2018 - 1/9

1 13 Daron Payne NT Yes
2 59 Derrius Guice RB No
3 74 Geron Christian T No
4 109 Troy Apke S No
5 163 Tim Settle NT No
6 197 Shaun Dion Hamilton LB No
7 241 Greg Stroman CB No
256 Trey Quinn WR No
6 Adonis Alexander CB No

2019 - 3/10

1 13 Dwayne Haskins QB No
26 Montez Sweat DE Yes
3 76 Terry McLaurin WR Yes
4 112 Bryce Love RB No
131 Wes Martin G No
5 153 Ross Pierschbacher C No
173 Cole Holcomb LB Yes
6 206 Kelvin Harmon WR No
7 227 Jimmy Moreland DB No
253 Jordan Brailford DE No

 

2020 - 2/8

1 2 Chase Young DE Yes
3 66 Antonio Gibson RB Yes
4 108 Saahdiq Charles OT No
142 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR No
5 156 Keith Ismael C No
162 Khaleke Hudson LB No
7 216 Kamren Curl SS No
229 James Smith-Williams DE No

 

I got 20/68 also. Damn. (Jimmy doesn't count for whatever reason)

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9 hours ago, Woz said:

The Fields drama ("you don't draft Ohio State QBs") is starting to feel a bit like "you don't draft Jeff Tedford-coached QBs" in the late 90s and early 2000s. They never panned out ... and as a result one of them fell from being a top 2 QB to Green Bay at 24.

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9 hours ago, Woz said:

The Fields drama ("you don't draft Ohio State QBs") is starting to feel a bit like "you don't draft Jeff Tedford-coached QBs" in the late 90s and early 2000s. They never panned out ... and as a result one of them fell from being a top 2 QB to Green Bay at 24.

I think you can call it a Haskins thing with some of the reports out there and not because "Ohio State QBs". There are reasons why Fields is dropping to the #5 QB outside of that. 

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WFT 2nd rd failures

 

Derrius Guice

Ryan Anderson

Su’a Cravens

Preston Smith

Trent Murphy

David Amerosn

Jarvis Jenkins

Devin Thomas

Malcolm Kelly

Fred Davis

Rocky McIntosh

Taylor Jacobs

Ladell Betts

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42 minutes ago, MikeT14 said:

2013 - 2/7

2 51 David Amerson CB Yes
3 85 Jordan Reed TE Yes
4 119 Phillip Thomas S No
5 154 Chris Thompson RB No
162 Brandon Jenkins DE No
6 191 Bacarri Rambo S No
7 228 Jawan Jamison RB No

 

2014 - 4/8 (pretty good)

2 47 Trent Murphy LB Yes
3 66 Morgan Moses OT Yes
78 Spencer Long G Yes
4 102 Bashaud Breeland CB Yes
5 142 Ryan Grant WR No
6 186 Lache Seastrunk RB No
7 217 Ted Bolser TE No
228 Zach Hocker K No

 

2015 - 2/10 (although Crowder contributed)

1 5 Brandon Scherff G Yes
2 38 Preston Smith DE Yes
3 95 Matt Jones RB No
4 105 Jamison Crowder WR No
112 Arie Kouandjio G No
5 141 Martrell Spaight LB No
6 181 Kyshoen Jarrett FS No
182 Tevin Mitchel CB No
187 Evan Spencer WR No
7 222 Austin Reiter C No

 

2016 - 3/7

1 22 Josh Doctson WR Yes
2 53 Su'a Cravens LB No
3 84 Kendall Fuller CB Yes
5 152 Matt Ioannidis DE Yes
6 187 Nate Sudfeld QB No
7 232 Steven Daniels LB No
242 Keith Marshall RB No

 

2017 - 3/10

1 17 Jonathan Allen DT Yes
2 49 Ryan Anderson LB No
3 81 Fabian Moreau CB No
4 114 Samaje Perine RB No
123 Montae Nicholson S Yes
5 154 Jeremy Sprinkle TE No
6 199 Chase Roullier C Yes
209 Robert Davis WR No
7 230 Josh Harvey-Clemons LB No
235 Joshua Holsey CB No

 

2018 - 1/9

1 13 Daron Payne NT Yes
2 59 Derrius Guice RB No
3 74 Geron Christian T No
4 109 Troy Apke S No
5 163 Tim Settle NT No
6 197 Shaun Dion Hamilton LB No
7 241 Greg Stroman CB No
256 Trey Quinn WR No
6 Adonis Alexander CB No

2019 - 3/10

1 13 Dwayne Haskins QB No
26 Montez Sweat DE Yes
3 76 Terry McLaurin WR Yes
4 112 Bryce Love RB No
131 Wes Martin G No
5 153 Ross Pierschbacher C No
173 Cole Holcomb LB Yes
6 206 Kelvin Harmon WR No
7 227 Jimmy Moreland DB No
253 Jordan Brailford DE No

 

2020 - 2/8

1 2 Chase Young DE Yes
3 66 Antonio Gibson RB Yes
4 108 Saahdiq Charles OT No
142 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR No
5 156 Keith Ismael C No
162 Khaleke Hudson LB No
7 216 Kamren Curl SS No
229 James Smith-Williams DE No

 

I got 20/68 also. Damn. (Jimmy doesn't count for whatever reason)

I bet most teams have a similar draft hit rate. We all sit here and act like we should hit with every pick and so many other teams do, but when you go to other forums it’s not too different than ours arguing over past picks that didn’t work out etc, etc. The only forums which I feel are totally different than ours are the ones where they’ve found their franchise QB and every year they’re in the playoffs but even those franchises have a lot of misses in the draft.

I mean look at the Patriots lately a lot of their most recent drafts are awful.

The main reason this franchise stays in mediocrity is because we can never fix the QB issue & when we did at least have a good starter at QB for a few years our D & run game we’re two of the worst in the NFL so it didn’t matter that we had a QB who consistently played like a top 15 QB and sometimes top 10 because the D & run game were awful. So, we just stayed mediocre then too.

Now if we had a good starter to go along with out run game and D I really feel we could have a team that might not be a Super Bowl contender but, most would feel in a playoff contender every year w/ an outside chance of going all the way. But now we don’t have a QB again, so here we are! Mediocrity 

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4 minutes ago, 4209 said:

WFT 2nd rd failures

 

Derrius Guice

Ryan Anderson

Su’a Cravens

Preston Smith

Trent Murphy

David Amerosn

Jarvis Jenkins

Devin Thomas

Malcolm Kelly

Fred Davis

Rocky McIntosh

Taylor Jacobs

Ladell Betts

I don’t consider Preston Smith & Trent Murphy failures. They were good but not great players for us. And yes, they’ve been replaced but we sure as hell had to spend high draft picks to do it.

The only reason they aren’t our starting DEs right now is because of the big contracts they got offered by other franchises & we had already paid Ryan Kerrigan a huge contract.

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