Totty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said: This is an elite offense dude Can you back that up with factual data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Points: 10th Yds: 8th Yds/play: 8th Passing yds: 7th passing yds/att: 5th rushing TDs: tied 6th 3rd down%: 6th 4th down%: 3rd Scoring drive %: 3rd yds/drive: 6th pts/drive: 7th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Points: 10th Yds: 8th Yds/play: 8th Passing yds: 7th passing yds/att: 5th rushing TDs: tied 6th 3rd down%: 6th 4th down%: 3rd Scoring drive %: 3rd yds/drive: 6th pts/drive: 7th Top 3 in three categories is not "elite" imo. We're good. But not good enough clearly to have a shoot out and win. Obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Totty said: Top 3 in three categories is not "elite" imo. We're good. But not good enough clearly to have a shoot out and win. Obviously. Good enough to stop whining about it though? Don't take it wrong, i'm not saying you are. Edited January 20, 2021 by oakdb36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Totty said: Top 3 in three categories is not "elite" imo. We're good. But not good enough clearly to have a shoot out and win. Obviously. Good enough to win a shootout of the defense can make a freaking stop. Can't win a shootout if the defense bends over in the last 30 seconds of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: Good enough to stop whining about it though? Don't take it wrong, i'm not saying you are. No I didn't take it that way at all. There's a lot of belly achers in here. I don't think offense is the issue. I'm not going to say elite, but they're good enough to go places. The clear hindrance is D. Those numbers help my Carr justification to the extreme members in here, however he's not the Mahomes type that'll just break a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickButera Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Totty said: I don't understand. We're almost last in the league in most defensive categories. And top ten in the league in most offensive categories. That's pretty good. Fix the worst problems first imo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, oakdb36 said: Points: 10th Yds: 8th Yds/play: 8th Passing yds: 7th passing yds/att: 5th rushing TDs: tied 6th 3rd down%: 6th 4th down%: 3rd Scoring drive %: 3rd yds/drive: 6th pts/drive: 7th Here I’ll help ya finish Redzone td %: 23rd passing tds: 11th fumbles/g: 3rd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jerry said: Good enough to win a shootout of the defense can make a freaking stop. Can't win a shootout if the defense bends over in the last 30 seconds of the game. Or if we could actually score tds in the redzone that could help. 23rd in redzone tds isn’t elite that’s as pathetic as the defense imo. Can’t win a shootout kicking 20 yard fgs all game Edited January 20, 2021 by NCOUGHMAN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Here I’ll help ya finish Redzone td %: 23rd passing tds: 11th fumbles/g: 3rd That's 3 stats, one of which isn't even bad. Gonna have to come up with at least 8 more to call that offense only average. I'll give you the one that doesn't serve your point to make it easier on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: That's 3 stats, one of which isn't even bad. Gonna have to come up with at least 8 more to call that offense only average. I'll give you the one that doesn't serve your point to make it easier on you. Never said our offense was average I think we’re good pushing toward being great but not even close to elite imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Never said our offense was average I think we’re good pushing toward being great but not even close to elite imo I didn't say it was elite either. I posted stats because @Totty asked for facts. It's borderline elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: I didn't say it was elite either. I posted stats because @Totty asked for facts. It's borderline elite. To me it goes average-good-great-elite. I think we’re good pushing towards great so I’m guessing you say we’re great pushing towards elite. imo it’s hard to be an elite offense without elite players only one maybe Worth arguing for elite Status is waller and we all know how I feel about him. Trent would be next if he wasn’t a fat slob who is always hurt. Other than that I don’t see any elite players on offense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, oakdb36 said: I didn't say it was elite either. I posted stats because @Totty asked for facts. It's borderline elite. and that is with: Our top WR going on IR before the season, leaving us with 2 Rookie WR and a Cast off Our Oline having constant turnover (normal in the nfl of course, but with the way our cap is spent it sucks for us.) Jacobs / run game being beat up - pretty middle of the road. - Everyone says, Carr needs weapons and he doenst elevate anyone. . . Agholor and Waller disagree. Everyone says, Carr needs a top 3 Oline to perform - - not a chance we were close to top 3 this year - Can we improve from Carr - Definitely. Is it guaranteed that if we draft a QB he will be better from Carr - No. Is our team built to support a young QB - No. Would Watson improve our O - Yes Would Watson improve our Record - Probably, but not a ton- our D would still be trash, and Watson/ Hou seems to always start slow (at least watson fantasy stats do lol. Always seems to have crazy ends of game, can our D keep us in it if we start slow?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: This is an elite offense dude 😂We're 23rd in the NFL in TD redzone % Maybe Elite in Madden and even then a stretch We are a middle of the pack offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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