jimkelly02 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 18 hours ago, reddevil said: I’m still all in on JOK. Having Abram and our current LBs wouldn’t stop me from drafting him. I think you can put him in at SLB and keep him on the field on every down, in the slot - wherever. He’s dynamic, aggressive, fast and a playmaker. Everything we have lacked for an age. The definition of a modern defender to play against modern offenses You pick him and you move the other players around to make space. If that means Abram or Morrow’s roles are reduced, then so be it. 216-218 SAM LB? He ain’t setting the edge... hed get steamrolled... he’s gotta be a will IMO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeremy408 said: Ive always thought that we used him wrong even before Paul Gunther. They basically put them out so much strong safety because of how hard he heads when really he should’ve probably been playing free safety because of his size and range. I wouldn’t mind bringing him back at all. cut Richard, and sign Joseph to a 1y 3m deal. He's not a savior, but he plays like a warrior. Hopefully our scheme and pass rush is better. He wasn't even bad his last year, just got hurt. seemed like one of the few defenders worth a darn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Humble_Beast said: cut Richard, and sign Joseph to a 1y 3m deal. He's not a savior, but he plays like a warrior. Hopefully our scheme and pass rush is better. He wasn't even bad his last year, just got hurt. seemed like one of the few defenders worth a darn Whoaaa.... I like Joseph and all but way too much money... he didn’t exactly get a A grade last year and got 2.5M.... I think he’s lucky to get 1.5-2M but I’d be very happy to have him back.... he’s a solid 3rd S and STer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaulthe1st Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 If I remember correctly KJ played some single high at West Virginia and was known as a ballhawk. He’s a guy who was typecast into a SS role because he was a big hitter but I always wanted to see him at the FS role. However, I’m not sure he has the range to play single high at a high level in the NFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) Joseph was always an enigma. He was always a strong safety in a free safety's body. Oddly, when we had them together Obi was really a free safety in a strong safety's body (not that Obi saw the field much, but based on his play in college). I don't really see him a centerfield free safety, though. He did always show decent closing speed, but I just don't know that he has the long speed/range for it. In theory, having Abram and Joseph both playing at safety is the hardest hitting duo in the league, for whatever value that has in 2021... Edited April 9, 2021 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Karl Joseph coming in for a visit. I like it! Mike Mayock said he loved Karl Joseph as a prospect and compared him to a poor man's Earl Thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted April 9, 2021 Author Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: Mike Mayock said he loved Karl Joseph as a prospect and compared him to a poor man's Earl Thomas. what a great development! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) I'd welcome Joseph back. Maybe this time Abram doesn't take him out a few plays in. 🙄 Edited April 9, 2021 by ronjon1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 27 minutes ago, jpaulthe1st said: If I remember correctly KJ played some single high at West Virginia and was known as a ballhawk. He’s a guy who was typecast into a SS role because he was a big hitter but I always wanted to see him at the FS role. However, I’m not sure he has the range to play single high at a high level in the NFL. That’s exactly what happened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Mike Mayock said he loved Karl Joseph as a prospect and compared him to a poor man's Earl Thomas. I saw that and was going to post it but decided not to because I didn’t want to seem like I was talking him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Mike Mayock said he loved Karl Joseph as a prospect and compared him to a poor man's Earl Thomas. same mayock that let him walk lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Turnobili said: same mayock that let him walk lol Well I don’t think we’re expecting a superstar. But it’s a lot better than having no one back there. And honestly, we can then focus on tackle/more of a BPA approach because it won’t be a glaring hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Well I don’t think we’re expecting a superstar. But it’s a lot better than having no one back there. And honestly, we can then focus on tackle/more of a BPA approach because it won’t be a glaring hole. That was always the plan. People here have been asking for Hooker, Boston, or even Clinton Dix to be signed cheap and still have us draft a safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, Turnobili said: That was . People here have been for Hooker, Boston, or even Clinton Dix to be signed cheap and still have us a safety I think Joseph is safer than any of those guys. He is pretty durable and is a sure tackler. Plus he's a much better zone coverage safety than man cover guy. I think he would be fine at single high. He had his best plays playing deep I thought. I just thought there was no way he'd come back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 If we bring back Joseph that tells me 1 good thing...That Grudock can evaluate a player they didn't want in one system and think he's a better fit in another system. So not as stubborn as fist thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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