Pickle Rick Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Scoundrel said: Okay once again Kyle Pitts can block damnitt! Sure sure sure. Once you tie him to a tackle and call that combuned person Pitts 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pickle Rick said: Sure sure sure. Once you tie him to a tackle and call that combuned person Pitts 🤣 I mean he’s better at blocking than Kyle Trask is at playing QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pheltzbahr Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 The Nightman Cometh is on FXX right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, pheltzbahr said: The Nightman Cometh is on FXX right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Jlash said: I think the narrative is lazy and flat out wrong. But to each their own. https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/justin-fields-progressions-first-read-analysis Justin Fields Throwing Beyond His First Read Who Said It Throws Beyond First Read Are They Right? Some Unnamed Source 7 Probably Not Me 42 Most Definitely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: Justin Fields Throwing Beyond His First Read Who Said It Throws Beyond First Read Are They Right? Some Unnamed Source 7 Probably Not Me 42 Most Definitely Assumed no one would click on it, so thank you. The article does a great job of going in depth not only pointing out how hilarious it is to say he never goes beyond his first read, but points out he did it more than the other QBs in this class....and also explains why it doesn't even necessarily have a positive or negative connotation to it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, Jlash said: Assumed no one would click on it, so thank you. The article does a great job of going in depth not only pointing out how hilarious it is to say he never goes beyond his first read, but points out he did it more than the other QBs in this class....and also explains why it doesn't even necessarily have a positive or negative connotation to it The sheer # of throws and completions that Lawrence and Jones had on screens, bubbles, and other throws within 2 yards of the LOS is somewhere between 25-30%, as opposed to Fields who is lowest at under 10% (NFL Draft forum for reference). I understand the knocks on Fields and OSU's system, and yet it's funny to me that no one knock's Clemson or Alabama's systems in the "pro readiness" departments in these regards. The benchmark for progressions and NFL throws seems to be a constantly moving and convenient one IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, MWil23 said: The sheer # of throws and completions that Lawrence and Jones had on screens, bubbles, and other throws within 2 yards of the LOS is somewhere between 25-30%, as opposed to Fields who is lowest at under 10% (NFL Draft forum for reference). I understand the knocks on Fields and OSU's system, and yet it's funny to me that no one knock's Clemson or Alabama's systems in the "pro readiness" departments in these regards. The benchmark for progressions and NFL throws seems to be a constantly moving and convenient one IMO. You leave Trevor out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 My opinion hasn't changed. Even the column agrees. He's first read then runs. Now that doesn't mean he doesnt throw to someone else during scramble drill. But he doesn't progress while in pocket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I put in my notes for Mac Jones that he has a tendency to stare down his first read as well. It's hardly a Fields-only issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: My opinion hasn't changed. Even the column agrees. He's first read then runs. Now that doesn't mean he doesnt throw to someone else during scramble drill. But he doesn't progress while in pocket You're not wrong, and @Blue and I had a discussion about this yesterday. That's essentially OSU's entire scheme, unless they're running a flood/bootleg concept, which they do A LOT of off of their outside zone scheme. The entire offense is predicated on identifying 1 vs. 2 high on the safeties, then from there it's an outside read route by the WR (man vs. zone, dependent upon the safety, etc.). They don't have too many pro style concepts from route combinations except for off of boots and designed rollouts. Therefore, while totally valid, it makes it hard to gauge whether Fields CANNOT do it, or simply that he DOES NOT because of the scheme (or both). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, Blue said: I put in my notes for Mac Jones that he has a tendency to stare down his first read as well. It's hardly a Fields-only issue. True. The author did note that while Jones had by far the lowest number of throws to anyone other than his first read, a lot of the times it was pre snap recognition deciding that, so another reason saying "doesn't go beyond first read" isn't necessarily an indicator either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Was hoping Jackson would make it to FA. Glad I got Horn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, SirA1 said: Was hoping Jackson would make it to FA. Glad I got Horn now. If you can't have a dominant pass rush. Have the best corners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirA1 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 59 minutes ago, bcb1213 said: If you can't have a dominant pass rush. Have the best corners Why not both? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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