lomaxgrUK Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Broncofan said: I also wonder if part of the decision behind letting Kareem walk is seeing if Ojemudia plays better at SS. He has the tools to be a good CB. But his tackling and nose for the ball in forcing fumbles, SS kinda fits really well too (obv you take the CB if he’s great there - but an OK CB who’s a great tackler and has the speed / size to cover TE’s also makes for a possibly really good safety). Ojemudia isn't a good tackler though ... In fact, it was probably the most frustrating thing about his play last year. He can't form tackle, which is a rather big problem for a Safety because there is nobody behind you to clear your mess up. We play a lot of Cover 1/3 Robber, but both Safeties play the Centerfield and Robber, so you need a good skillset to play there for Fangio. Ojemudia isn't going to be a Safety any time soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lomaxgrUK said: Ojemudia isn't a good tackler though ... In fact, it was probably the most frustrating thing about his play last year. He can't form tackle, which is a rather big problem for a Safety because there is nobody behind you to clear your mess up. We play a lot of Cover 1/3 Robber, but both Safeties play the Centerfield and Robber, so you need a good skillset to play there for Fangio. Ojemudia isn't going to be a Safety any time soon. It’s a problem in Fangio’s D either position, but fair point. If it’s technique that can improve given he’s a rookie, but if not he’s hard to project as a future starter at either position in this D. Being a big hitter only matters if you also are a sure tackler with Fangio’s system. Edited March 16, 2021 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) I am intrigued to see what happens with Phil now. You have to assume someone out there is going to offer him a deal. He might have (understandably) now given up on being a Bronco beyond this year, but the UDFA tag allows Phil to negotiate with the entire league a full league year earlier than it would have with a 1 year, $3m 2nd round tender. Technically, we've done Phil a favour. Those with decent memory will remember the same with CJ Anderson. We ended up paying him $9m for 2 years after he got an offer sheet from Chicago which was a good deal for him. He 'only' earned $3m over the 2 years after that deal, so if he hadn't have had that offer sheet he may have lost out on millions. Like I said, there is no denying Phil will be upset with our FO, but he could be a multi-millionaire in the next month with multi-year security. Edited March 16, 2021 by lomaxgrUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizmo78 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Shaquill Griffin goes to the Jags for 15mil/yr. Liked and wanted Shaq but thats a little rich for him imo. Happier with Darby if he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Shaq isnt 50% better than Darby, not by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, BroncosFan2010 said: Shaq isnt 50% better than Darby, not by a long shot. That’s a massive overpay to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: Those with decent memory will remember the same with CJ Anderson. We ended up paying him $9m for 2 years after he got an offer sheet from Chicago which was a good deal for him. He 'only' earned $3m over the 2 years after that deal, so if he hadn't have had that offer sheet he may have lost out on millions. Chicago? I swore it was Miami lol I'm losing it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Chicago? I swore it was Miami lol I'm losing it . It was Miami. GM Mike Tannenbaum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Apparently Chicago offered him the biggest contract. My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, broncos67 said: I said this yesterday, will say it again. We will be bringing in another CB in FA. Despite Klis trying to say our group is solid, it's not, and we need more talent. Darby is a #2, and while he has talent, he also has injury issues. Callahan cant stay healthy. Ojemudia showed flashes, still needs work. Bassey is a UDFA with little experience. Need more talent at the position. Period. Yeah we aren’t done. Apparently we had an agreement with Davis for $8.4m per year but the Chargers matched it dollar for dollar and he chose to stay in LA. The good news is there is an absolute ton of talent in the FA pool. You can’t have enough good CBs. Too be honest even if we add another one I still think Surtain is in the conversation at 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncos67 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 hour ago, paul-mac said: Yeah we aren’t done. Apparently we had an agreement with Davis for $8.4m per year but the Chargers matched it dollar for dollar and he chose to stay in LA. The good news is there is an absolute ton of talent in the FA pool. You can’t have enough good CBs. Too be honest even if we add another one I still think Surtain is in the conversation at 9. Completely agree with you. And I wouldn't be the least bit upset if he was chosen at 9. With the talent in the division, and the NFL at large, you can't have enough CBs. That said, I think it makes LB more likely, maybe OLB. Safety is now firmly a need too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, broncos67 said: Completely agree with you. And I wouldn't be the least bit upset if he was chosen at 9. With the talent in the division, and the NFL at large, you can't have enough CBs. That said, I think it makes LB more likely, maybe OLB. Safety is now firmly a need too. Because we have so many needs, though - we should go BPA, and not pick 1 spot over another solely out of biggest / most immediate need (but it's a good tiebreaker if there isn't a talent/skill gap). It just so happens BPA can be argued to be one of those positions (obviously it's if there's a huge gap that BPA dictates the choice in a vacuum - but a 86 grade WR vs. 85 grade CB, it's going to be a 85 CB. It just shouldn't be a 80-grade safety over a 85-grade CB). Edited March 16, 2021 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebestever6 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Would love adoree jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Would love adoree jackson I don't follow TEN run D enough (because their pass D has been so abysmal that's where teams pick on them lol) - but if Adoree isn't good in run support, Paton & Fangio won't go there. Cover guys who make business decisions in run support won't get a look. Last time I looked, he was just dreadful in run support (he was good in college, so that was surprising) but I didn't follow him last year at all. If it's unchanged, that's a big no go in a Fangio D. Edited March 16, 2021 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizmo78 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 30 minutes ago, thebestever6 said: Would love adoree jackson Same. Lets offer him a 1 year 8.5m prove it deal and see how his knee has healed up. He would give us some serious speed at corner, along with Darby who is athletic as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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