pwny Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: One is much more extreme then the other but both certainly exist. That's really all he is saying, if poorly. 2 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: I'll never understand why people are so scared to admit their side is just as bad but whatever. Well no, that’s not what he’s saying. He’s explicitly said — and this isn’t the only time — that both sides are just as bad as each other. Was there some politicizing? Sure. But when even his cherry-picked Twitter user only shows that 10% of the gotchas the could find were actually doing so, it’s a pretty stupid time to “both sides” the discussion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, pwny said: It’s honestly amazing that an entire account to finding these Ls could post about 20 different ones, and 18 of them all have the context within a 280 character tweet, and yet even when 90% of the time the context is right within the tweet of the account that you’re pushing forward as proof, you’re still out here saying that the context didn’t exist then. Truly incredible. https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1442254111164960770 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1442173773541744645 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1441804102162268167 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1441459411680116737 https://twitter.com/kimmie102473/status/1439157894927224833/photo/1 I guess these are all missing context and I should contact them all individually to make sure I have the entire story b/c there's absolutely no way they are politicizing this. No way........... Edited September 30, 2021 by BobbyPhil1781 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: Not sure why everyone is jumping down @BobbyPhil1781's throat for suggesting the left and right both politicize the vaccine. One is much more extreme then the other but both certainly exist. That's really all he is saying, if poorly. He's been pretty clear in previous posts that he backs the science. Because the whataboutisms are disingenuous and in some cases not even correct. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Sorry, Deadpulse, but you're going to have to get ganged up on for understanding what I was saying even if it may've been articulated poorly. My apologies but thanks again. I gotta get back to work regardless of what Rand McPherson thinks is going on.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, pwny said: Well no, that’s not what he’s saying. He’s explicitly said — and this isn’t the only time — that both sides are just as bad as each other. Was there some politicizing? Sure. But when even his cherry-picked Twitter user only shows that 10% of the gotchas the could find were actually doing so, it’s a pretty stupid time to “both sides” the discussion. I did say poorly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: B/c people get their feelings hurt when you point out to them that the side they champion does the same **** the side their criticizing is doing. I'm VERY glad someone here has some ******* sense on the subject. Thank you. They have manifested this discussion into something they wanted it to be instead of what was actually being discussed. My bad for toeing the lines here but I did try my best to defend my stance w/o crossing too deep. You're 100% right. The fact that people don't see that the left is just as guilty of politicizing this for various reasons is nothing short of comical. The whole thing is a meme. George Washington was right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: Sorry, Deadpulse, but you're going to have to get ganged up on for understanding what I was saying even if it may've been articulated poorly. My apologies but thanks again. I gotta get back to work regardless of what Rand McPherson thinks is going on.... Lol good lord I’m living in your delicate head rent free 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Because the whataboutisms are disingenuous and in some cases not even correct. So is using the over-politicization of the vaccine by the right to swath the entire unvaxxed as alt right extremists. That is is still politicizing it. Its much more rational and its happening because of a politicization already occurring but it's very present. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 This is an update to my yesterday update and it is directed to those mybodystrong types: Nearly 4 in 10 people who became infected with the coronavirus still have at least one symptom three to six months later, a study of covid-19 “long-haulers” found. The most common lingering symptoms were trouble breathing, fatigue and anxiety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: So is using the over-politicization of the vaccine by the right to swath the entire unvaxxed as alt right extremists. That is is still politicizing it. Its much more rational and its happening because of a politicization already occurring but it's very present. When did I do this? Who are you referencing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, pwny said: Well no, that’s not what he’s saying. He’s explicitly said — and this isn’t the only time — that both sides are just as bad as each other. yeah, this isn’t the first time we’ve had this discussion or seen those references from him. 23 minutes ago, pwny said: Was there some politicizing? Sure. But when even his cherry-picked Twitter user only shows that 10% of the gotchas the could find were actually doing so, it’s a pretty stupid time to “both sides” the discussion. And the applicable gotchas are randoms with Twitter accounts, not sitting politicians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, TVScout said: This is an update to my yesterday update and it is directed to those mybodystrong types: Nearly 4 in 10 people who became infected with the coronavirus still have at least one symptom three to six months later, a study of covid-19 “long-haulers” found. The most common lingering symptoms were trouble breathing, fatigue and anxiety. Anxiety? Crap, I'm always anxious and I never had Covid. Am... Am I dying? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1442254111164960770 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1442173773541744645 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1441804102162268167 https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status/1441459411680116737 https://twitter.com/kimmie102473/status/1439157894927224833/photo/1 I guess these are all missing context and I should contact them all individually to make sure I have the entire story b/c there's absolutely no way they are politicizing this. No way........... If you actually look up the tweets instead of just relying on this twitter account to give you full tweet, you'd see that the first one actually contained more within the tweet than you're being show. Not follow up tweets or having to look at the user's profile to get it, but specifically within the lone single tweet, it was quoting an article about the lack of transparency. Gee, I wonder why they cut off that part of the tweet. The middle two, yup those are the two. The fourth one didn't have the context within the tweet, but it was a joke about a misquote someone made when announcing that the UK had approved the vaccine earlier that same day. Rather than saying that the UK had approved the vaccine, a pro-Trump individual said that COVID had approved the Trump Vaccine. He simply posted that quote and a joke following it. Poor form, sure. But not politicizing it in the way being discussed. As for the 5th one, yeah, I'm sure that other accounts have found other instances too. There's a whole lot of people on the planet, and many on both sides. The point is still that the overwhelming majority of these with this discussion are not what you’re claiming, and that what you’re claiming is a small fraction of the discussion and not worth the “both sides” treatment you repeatedly are trying to apply to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenos Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said: LOL what? The hell are you talking about? This discussion started b/c someone said only one side has politicized this thing and I showed that is incorrect. Who said I'm not believing research/data/evidence/science? Some of y'all really do just make up what we're discussing to get your talking points through lol. No, the discussion started because you took out of context my post about a large swath of people being unvaccinated for political reasons. Which is what’s happening right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 35 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: I did say poorly So you don’t see why this wildly incorrect stance that minor instances are the same as widespread misinformation would be pushed back on, after he’s continually tried to push the idea that they’re the same? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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