big poppa pump Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Pro-Mayfield or not, there are some things that are clear..... He has lacked consistency, which should be alarming to even the biggest Mayfield "homers" He is a clear upgrade over ANYTHING we have seen at that position in a long time, even for the biggest "haters" Barring a clear upgrade, there really isn't a reason to move on from him next year. Even if you think you are delaying the inevitable, you aren't doing yourself any favors by making a lateral move, or worse! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 15 hours ago, bruceb said: Ya, I suppose you could franchise tag him if you wanted to prolong the ordeal. Kaiser and Kessler are you saying there better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, big poppa pump said: Pro-Mayfield or not, there are some things that are clear..... He has lacked consistency, which should be alarming to even the biggest Mayfield "homers" He is a clear upgrade over ANYTHING we have seen at that position in a long time, even for the biggest "haters" Barring a clear upgrade, there really isn't a reason to move on from him next year. Even if you think you are delaying the inevitable, you aren't doing yourself any favors by making a lateral move, or worse! For sure. Deciding he’s not the next Mahomes or Brady is one thing. Finding someone who’s better is another. You move on from Baker when you figure out the latter, not the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, big poppa pump said: Pro-Mayfield or not, there are some things that are clear..... He has lacked consistency, which should be alarming to even the biggest Mayfield "homers" He is a clear upgrade over ANYTHING we have seen at that position in a long time, even for the biggest "haters" Barring a clear upgrade, there really isn't a reason to move on from him next year. Even if you think you are delaying the inevitable, you aren't doing yourself any favors by making a lateral move, or worse! Spot on. That's the limbo we're going to have to get used to for the next season. Let's hope the doubting is fuel to the chip on his shoulder, and we surround him with the resources and game plans to maximize what we have in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, dawgdish said: Spot on. That's the limbo we're going to have to get used to for the next season. Let's hope the doubting is fuel to the chip on his shoulder, and we surround him with the resources and game plans to maximize what we have in him. I wish there was more debate going on About Conklin Dpj,landry,and Higgins that group was horrible by 1980 standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 8 hours ago, big poppa pump said: He has lacked consistency, which should be alarming to even the biggest Mayfield "homers" I think his dismal performance in the clutch should sound as loud an alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, bruceb said: I think his dismal performance in the clutch should sound as loud an alarm. Which is more of a recent thing. His rookie year he won 7 games (technically 6 but why wouldn't you credit him with the Jets win) and 4 of the wins were via a game winning drive. He had 2 in 2020 without really a chance to add to that. He got us the lead against Baltimore but Lamar cleaned himself up and won it. That "fumble" against the Jets that Hunt recovered for a 1st but ended up being a TO finished that game. He did have a chance to take the lead vs KC in the playoffs but that wasn't our final drive. 2019 was a mess. 2021 he was bad at it. He was also sacked on every important 3rd and 4th and long. Partly his fault but he was put in a bad position with 5 wide and often a blitzer that came free really quickly without a dump off option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Watching the 49ers and Jimmy G just reaffirms what I’ve felt about Baker in a weird way. You can absolutely make it to a Super Bowl with him as your QB if your defense is good enough. We’ve gotta also fix special teams though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I think I know what bothers me about Aaron Rodgers game - He’s too risk adverse. You see it every game. He refuses to trust anybody not named Davante Adams or Aaron Jones. He’s too obsessed with keeping his interceptions down. It kind of reminds me of how Lebron used to play for the Cavs. You can get away with that in the regular season, but not the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pscottdai Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, candyman93 said: I think I know what bothers me about Aaron Rodgers game - He’s too risk adverse. You see it every game. He refuses to trust anybody not named Davante Adams or Aaron Jones. He’s too obsessed with keeping his interceptions down. It kind of reminds me of how Lebron used to play for the Cavs. You can get away with that in the regular season, but not the playoffs. He would really hate it here then since none of our WRs can be trusted to actually catch the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 hours ago, candyman93 said: Watching the 49ers and Jimmy G just reaffirms what I’ve felt about Baker in a weird way. You can absolutely make it to a Super Bowl with him as your QB if your defense is good enough. We’ve gotta also fix special teams though. I mean, counterpoint: See Ryan Tannehill and how his defense dominated and he cost them the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, MWil23 said: I mean, counterpoint: See Ryan Tannehill and how his defense dominated and he cost them the game. The key is to just throw less INT’s lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, candyman93 said: The key is to just throw less INT’s lol Jimmy is also crazy efficient and clutch in 2 minute drill situations, something Baker hasn’t been since his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, candyman93 said: The key is to just throw less INT’s lol And it still took a last second FG to beat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 1/21/2022 at 9:32 AM, big poppa pump said: Pro-Mayfield or not, there are some things that are clear..... He has lacked consistency, which should be alarming to even the biggest Mayfield "homers" Just playing devils advocate… we’re going to use it against him that he hasn’t been consistent and that should be alarming… so he has to be more consistent than the inconsistency that has been around him? How many QBs have been able to survive 3-4HC (some ppl love to include Gregg Williams )changes and a FO turnover? Baker was about to see his first bit of consistency from the franchise, he looked pretty darn good the first 2 games and he tears his shoulder up and a few games later Watt breaks his shoulder… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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