KhanYouDigIt Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, TheRealMcCoy said: The Bills' WR corps is so damn slow. I was thinking the same thing. I don’t watch Jordan Matthews much but I was watching the Raiders/Bills game this past weekend and my goodness, he was running a slant over the middle and it looked like he was running in quicksand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 31 minutes ago, iPwn said: I don’t think he’s anything special. But he’s not bad either. Not a WR1, but he fits with the rest of the inconsistent borderline 1,000 yard receivers out there that litter the landscape as decent and upper end WR2 options. Benjamin is mediocre to me. He's pretty frustrating. He'll make flash plays that make you wonder though. 53 minutes ago, Jeezla said: 1 hour ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Am I the only one that doesn't really like Benjamin? Zay Jones, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin.... BLAH I think that's a pretty good core if the Bills sign Cousins or draft a 4000+ yard capable QB. Just needs someone to take the top off, like a JJ Nelson or John Brown. Either way, it's the best set of Weapons Tyrod has had to work with, if they can all get/stay healthy. I'm not trying to say that that group of receivers is awful. I mean there are worse units. The Eagles were definitely worse just last year. I just think its a bunch of meh receivers. Benjamin is up and down. I think you know my feelings by now on Matthews. He's pretty meh. Not a bad receiver at all, but inconsistent hands and just not dynamic. I didn't understand taking Zay Jones early in the 2nd round. Just didn't think he warranted that high of a selection. Matthews is in the last year of his deal and Benjamin's is cheap this year, but will be making 8.5 million next year and is a FA in 2019. I'm not too sure I would want either of those guys on my team long term unless you get them for a very reasonable (cheapish) deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 So Carolina wants Cam to fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xian3000 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: I think that's a pretty good core if the Bills sign Cousins or draft a 4000+ yard capable QB. Just needs someone to take the top off, like a JJ Nelson or John Brown. Either way, it's the best set of Weapons Tyrod has had to work with, if they can all get/stay healthy. Is Benjamin a good blocker for a WR? Does he boost Shady's value at all on outside runs or screens? I was just listening to an interview with Beane, the Bills GM, and he said yes. He scouted Benjamin out of Florida when the Panthers took him in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: So Carolina wants Cam to fail? Hasn't that been obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 WTF Carolina. Gonna run my boy J-Stew to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 52 minutes ago, KhanYouDigIt said: I was thinking the same thing. I don’t watch Jordan Matthews much but I was watching the Raiders/Bills game this past weekend and my goodness, he was running a slant over the middle and it looked like he was running in quicksand. Yup Matthews is decent with Yards After Catch. He had a 30 yard catch and run that got called off for OPI only because DB slipped in rain and the ref thought Matthews pushed off. Not fastest guy on Earth but he can run once he gets ball in his hands. They may be slow but at least we get some spacing now... We had no receivers who could play outside. Benjamin despite being slow can play outside and allow Matthews and Zay to play where they play best. And if we need a speed guy Thompson is decent and super fast to bring off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, TheRealMcCoy said: Am I the only one that doesn't really like Benjamin? Zay Jones, Jordan Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin.... BLAH You're not alone, no. My first reaction seeing the news was that I thought Benjamin has been nothing but mediocre. But everyone seems hyped about the trade. I don't think he's worth what they gave up in picks. His career thus far reminds me too much of Dwayne Bowe. Possession receiver with only decent hands, a great blocker, but no real ability to get separation through speed, agility, or route running. And only a semi-productive #1 WR because he's on a team with no one to push his spot on the depth chart or fight for targets. Honestly, now that I think about it, I'm meh on the trade for him for all the same reasons I was underwhelmed on signing Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The Bills were 5-2 and getting good QB play with the worst receiving core in the league before robbing the Panther's blind. If I'm a Bills fan, I'm loving this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Why would Carolina do this? What's the upside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coors Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I don’t get what Carolina is trying to do here. Their WR corps has never been very good, and they have never been deep at that position. I get Benjamin hasn’t been as good as he should be, but he is the best they have. I’m lost there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus mode Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 5 hours ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Love it. Seeing you have some kind of hope is weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roysmyboy31 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Not sure why Carolina would do this. He was one of the few decent WRs they had on the roster. And it was already a weaker position for them. As for Buffalo, only giving up a 3rd and 7th for someone who can upgrade a thin WR corps and a big body for Taylor on the outside is a good move for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 3 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: So Carolina wants Cam to fail? He's been doing a bang up job of that already himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KManX89 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Nabbs4u said: He's been doing a bang up job of that already himself. And this helps them... how? I doubt they can nab a better player in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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