TecmoSuperJoe Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, 49ersfan said: Didn't the Bears offer three 1st's, a 3rd, Kyle Fuller & Akiem Hicks last year? They should have just taken that haul. Not even in hindsight; i supported both sides moving on, and not just cuz Wilson always beats the Niners). And the Seahawks could have had Fields or Jones who are better prospects than anyone in this class Even though he faded down the stretch and the Seahawks were quickly bounced, Wilson was coming off a career best 40 touchdown campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, TecmoSuperJoe said: If you want that contract, sold. Oh right, yeah no I'm good. I remember some of you fools thinking he'd get a 2nd. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, Danger said: Oh right, yeah no I'm good. I remember some of you fools thinking he'd get a 2nd. LOL Meh. Teams get desperate. Sam Bradford went for a 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I feel like that's not enough picks, honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Including years before 2010 in a chart is weird. Russel Okung(6) was an A-/B+ OL who helped them win a SB and almost another as their starting LT. Earl Thomas(14) was a generation talent at safety who was an A++. (3x 1st team and 2x 2nd team all-pro) James Carpenter (25) was a B-/C+ guard who has started 127 NFL games including 5 of the 6 on their SB runs. Bruce Irvin(15) was B or B+ as a LB/Edge who had 52 sacks in 8 seasons and was a key B-level part of the LoB. German Ifedi (31) was a B/B- OL in Seattle for 4 years and has been about the same in Chicago. (worse teammates) Rashaad Penny (27) INCOMPLETE has had a weird career with injuries and depth chart burial. He got his shot last year and played really well. He's a career 5.6 ypc back (5.2 in years 1-2 combined and 6.3 last year). Not exactly a bust at 27. Are we saying LJ Collier(29) D+/D makes him a bad GM in round 1 or are you all saying you have no idea how the NFL draft works and what realistic success rates are? If we compare him to the 1969-1978 Steelers or the 2003-2012 Steelers then he's a bum. (like everyone else) If we are comparing him to the guy who used the 2016 and 2017 1st round picks +++ to get and the 2023 1st round pick to get rid of Jared Goff then I think Schneider is fine. I would never claim to be an expert on the Hawks, but all of those letter grades seem high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 21 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: I think it's really funny that people (not just you) can, in the same breath, say that Russell is consistently great / elite / HOF-worthy and then add that Seattle's offense has been broken for years. Elite QBs don't lead broken offenses. I don't think there's another QB in the consensus top 10 that relies on how the guys around him are performing as much as Russell does. Let's take age completely off the table. Here are the QBs who I'd rather be starting for my offense right now over Russ (in no order): Rodgers Brady WatsonLamarBurrow Herbert MahomesStaffordKyler Dak JAllen And I think Tannehill and Cousins are right there. That's 11 QBs who I really wouldn't even think twice about. I truly think Russ is more sizzle than spice at this point in his career. People are vastly underrating how much he can handcuff an offense with his lack of vision in the pocket and inability to consistently play with the design of the offense. IMHO you're crazy if you want the bolded over Russ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Touchdown golden tate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 How sure are we that Wilson isn't the worst QB in this division going forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 My wife brought me draft magazines home on her way from work this afternoon. She's still the best 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, incognito_man said: How sure are we that Wilson isn't the worst QB in this division going forward? Derek Carr exists 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidgit Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'm happy with the compensation for Russ as a Hawks fan. Getting this year and next year's seconds is equivalent to getting 1sts 3-4 years out. The hawks have always done fine with their 1st round picks relative to where they pick. It's also pretty obvious this is going to be one last hurrah for the PSJC regime. If this blows up in their face they are gone, but they are betting they can rebuild in a short time and make a big push with a QB on a rookie contract. Seeing Rodgers' new contract number this morning was probably what made them want to pull the trigger. They knew they won't be getting back to a Super Bowl with a contract like that on their books, regardless of how well Wilson does or doesn't do. I also think a big piece of this is about legacy/reputation. Carroll doesn't want to retire known as a guy that just rode Wilson's coat tails for years and Wilson knows he's borderline HoF and if he wins another SB with a different team then he's a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 This is great. Denver must have had this lined up in case the Rodgers thing didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Forge said: Russ has made my football life a living hell for a decade. 49ers fans get to enjoy this one lol Rams fans were somewhat sad... But then I realized Russell will still be coming to LA this year for his yearly sackathon/beatdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fidgit said: The hawks have always done fine with their 1st round picks relative to where they pick. They have? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, SaveOurSonics said: 1st + 2nd this year (#9 overall) 1st + 2nd next year I assume the 5th is this year but I'm not positive on that. Damn, they could either use that 9th overall or trade it away to get a lower 1st rounder and get Malik Willis. Start Lock next year if Willis is not ready and they would be set. Or wait for the 2nd round get steal someone like Howell or Ridder who could easily be there in that high 2nd round pick. Seattle could be in great shape, especially if they get Willis and let him develop a little. Seattle has only had 5 1st round picks in the last 9 years so rare thing for them to have. I assume that 4th rounder going to Denver from Seattle is #114. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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