mtmmike Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, dawgdish said: Usually the simplest explanation is the accurate one when it comes to conspiracy theories. Watson is a scumbag and there will be more allegations coming out: simple. Liking this thread Still waiting for the new York times and Washington post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 For the fans wondering why this franchise made a literal deal with the Devil, I want you to watch highlights of Jacoby from this weeks game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, candyman93 said: For the fans wondering why this franchise made a literal deal with the Devil, I want you to watch highlights of Jacoby from this weeks game. I get it, but… Bailey Zappe is a rookie mid round pick from directional southern state university and he put 300 yards and multiple scores on the board. At some point dudes just need to start producing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 16, 2022 Author Share Posted October 16, 2022 Zappe wasn’t a bad prospect coming out. He was a better prospect than Gardnew Minshew coming out. Dude killed it at WKU. Not he shouldn’t light us up like that, but he’s not a scrub. Accurate with a quick release and doesn’t make mistakes even though he throws a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, brownie man said: Zappe wasn’t a bad prospect coming out. He was a better prospect than Gardnew Minshew coming out. Dude killed it at WKU. Not he shouldn’t light us up like that, but he’s not a scrub. Accurate with a quick release and doesn’t make mistakes even though he throws a lot. He’s a mid round rookie who has started a couple games dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, brownie man said: Zappe wasn’t a bad prospect coming out. He was a better prospect than Gardnew Minshew coming out. Dude killed it at WKU. Not he shouldn’t light us up like that, but he’s not a scrub. Accurate with a quick release and doesn’t make mistakes even though he throws a lot. Yep, our d is terrible. It’s less than the sum of its parts which means you have to look at coaching 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 12 hours ago, hornbybrown said: Yep, our d is terrible. It’s less than the sum of its parts which means you have to look at coaching Agree coaching is a big problem, but some of the parts we have (especially in the secondary) need scrutiny, and our philosophy of not giving a flying fig about the DT and LB positions also deserves a good think and eyeball test instead of blindly trusting the algorithm that so devalues them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, dawgdish said: Agree coaching is a big problem, but some of the parts we have (especially in the secondary) need scrutiny, and our philosophy of not giving a flying fig about the DT and LB positions also deserves a good think and eyeball test instead of blindly trusting the algorithm that so devalues them We have multiple 3rd rounders and a second rounder at LB as well as a FA with starting experience at LB. We have a 3rd, two 4ths and a former 1st rounder at DT. I don’t know if this is a uniquely Cleveland fan thing or what, but not every player is going to be a first or second round talent. Other teams regularly start, and get production from, late round picks or even UDFA. Mack ******* Wilson started for the Patriots yesterday. Like I said yesterday, either Berry has missed on literally every defensive draft pick (which statistically is almost impossible) or the coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball just sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdish Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Like I said yesterday, either Berry has missed on literally every defensive draft pick (which statistically is almost impossible) or the coaching staff on the defensive side of the ball just sucks Doesn't have to be only that dichotomy. Berry could have missed on 50-75% of the defensive picks and the coaches could 100% suck. I was thinking about the Fire Joe Woods Now mantra, which I'm all for, but then was having panic attacks about who we'd replace him with in the interim. Surely not our secondary coach given the wretched state of our pass D, or our DL coach given how we're turnstiles in the run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, dawgdish said: Doesn't have to be only that dichotomy. Berry could have missed on 50-75% of the defensive picks I mean, he’s almost assuredly whiffed on half his picks. That’s what every GM does. 5 minutes ago, dawgdish said: and the coaches could 100% suck. Is it all the coaches though? Is there no one in the coaches room who’s offered up different game plans or ideas and been shot down? Christ I hope so… 5 minutes ago, dawgdish said: I was thinking about the Fire Joe Woods Now mantra, which I'm all for, but then was having panic attacks about who we'd replace him with in the interim. Surely not our secondary coach given the wretched state of our pass D, or our DL coach given how we're turnstiles in the run game. Yeah, there’s definitely no clear cut guy you’d look to. At least based on production or experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Yeah, there's likely no one who would be a good interim DC, but who cares? I can't imagine anyone would be much worse than Woods. And at least if he's fired, the team is at least stating that these results aren't acceptable. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, DawgX said: Yeah, there's likely no one who would be a good interim DC, but who cares? I can't imagine anyone would be much worse than Woods. And at least if he's fired, the team is at least stating that these results aren't acceptable. I have no interest in being overly reactive or whatever, but we’re a third of the way through the season and are looking more and more clueless defensively by the week. I get coaches will have games where they get out-coached, but Christ it can’t be every week for a month and a half. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I have no interest in being overly reactive or whatever, but we’re a third of the way through the season and are looking more and more clueless defensively by the week. I get coaches will have games where they get out-coached, but Christ it can’t be every week for a month and a half. What's going to change? More points given up? More blown assignments? More mismanaged personnel? I find it hard to believe that we're that far from the bottom of how bad it can get at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, DawgX said: Yeah, there's likely no one who would be a good interim DC, but who cares? I can't imagine anyone would be much worse than Woods. And at least if he's fired, the team is at least stating that these results aren't acceptable. Hi dawgx how you doing Love the analysis to me what excellent defensive coordinator would come here with 1 NFL level starting player in the front7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) I know yall dont see it yet but, Deshaun is going to bring to the Browns what Donovan Mitchell is bringing to the Cavs right now. You can't see it now, but by the end of the season you'll understand. Edited November 3, 2022 by brownie man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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