MWil23 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 He's just good enough to put you in playoff contention and just bad enough to never be relevant as a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Simpler proof: Tua is not a franchise QB. Tua stole Jalen Hurt's job halfway through a game and forced Hurts out. Tua is therefore better than Hurts. Hurts is not a franchise QB. Simpler proof: 1. Dwayne Haskins was not a franchise QB 2. Dwayne stole Burrow's starting job at Ohio State 3. Dwayne was better than Burrow 4. Burrow is not a franchise QB 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Simpler proof: Tua is not a franchise QB. Tua stole Jalen Hurt's job halfway through a game and forced Hurts out. Tua is therefore better than Hurts. Hurts is not a franchise QB. This ignores the fact that Hurts has been a substantially better NFL QB than Tua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: This ignores the fact that Hurts has been a substantially better NFL QB than Tua I mean, more generally, the transitive property doesn't work for NFL QBs. That's not a real proof of anything. Jalen Hurts isn't a franchise QB since he doesn't throw the ball well enough to be one, but I think we all knew that when we opened the thread up honestly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, ThatJaxxenGuy said: This ignores the fact that Hurts has been a substantially better NFL QB than Tua Substantially? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: Substantially? It's actually funny. Per-game totals almost unanimously favor Tua: Passing Rushing Rk Player From To Cmp Att Yds TD Int Sk Yds Att Yds TD 1 Jalen Hurts 2020 2022 11.6 19.7 143.5 0.7 0.4 1.3 6.9 7.1 39.6 0.5 2 Tua Tagovailoa 2020 2022 19.7 29.6 197.4 1.2 0.6 1.8 13.2 3.3 9.9 0.3 Whereas the advanced metrics unanimously favor Hurts: Passing Rushing Receiving Rk Player From To AV G QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Rate Lng Int Sk Yds Y/A AY/A NY/A ANY/A Att Yds TD Y/A Lng Rec Yds TD Y/R Lng 1 Jalen Hurts 2020 2022 21 31 10-10-0 360 612 58.8 4448 22 84.5 91 13 40 213 7.3 7.03 6.50 6.27 219 1228 14 5.6 31 1 3 0 3.0 3 2 Tua Tagovailoa 2020 2022 12 24 14-8-0 472 711 66.4 4737 28 89.5 65 15 43 316 6.7 6.50 5.86 5.71 80 237 6 3.0 23 0 0 0 0 I don't think either are franchise QB's, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Hell no he ain’t pretty enough. You gotta be great looking to be a franchise QB. Dude at best is a 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: Substantially? I think so. Availability is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 TBD. This year will give us a much clearer answer (although I don’t think it will be as open and shut as Eagles fans are hoping) I lean probably not, but performances like he had Sunday are very encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Is this still a question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 I wonder how many of those that said "no" will stubbornly keep sticking with that opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, notthatbluestuff said: I wonder how many of those that said "no" will stubbornly keep sticking with that opinion. stubbornly? The Eagles just ran for 360 or so yards. I think Jalen Hurts is a poor man's Lamar Jackson, and I think neither of them at this point are franchise QB's who can win with their arms, especially if you pay them and have to make sacrifices elsewhere on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, brownie man said: Is this still a question? It wasn’t until you bumped a 2 month old thread… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notthatbluestuff Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: It wasn’t until you bumped a 2 month old thread… Just for my info, at what point does a thread become too old to acceptably bump? I have many plates of correct takes currently spinning that are waiting for the prime opportunity to bring back to the fore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 all the Tua hate in the thread is more funny imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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