Apparition Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, mcmurtry86 said: Guys who were considered first ballot HOF at the time? Or are now considered first ballot HOF QBs? Either. Both. QB play has been trending upward for most of the league's history. This might be the first period to feature a lengthy downturn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 LOL Raiders have completely melted down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 50 burger in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcmurtry86 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Starless said: Either. Both. QB play has been trending upward for most of the league's history. This might be the first period to feature a lengthy downturn. Go back to 2000. Which of those QB's were considered 1st ballot HOF? Not Favre (not yet). Definitely not Manning (not yet), definitely not Warner. Aikman was pretty much the only one. I see absolutely no argument for a "lengthy downturn". You might not get any arguable top 5-7 all time guys other than Rodgers but there's a ton of good/promising young QB's in the league and a few of them are bound to be franchise guys who win at least one Super Bowl at some point in their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asciimo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 even as a pats fan, this game as been boring af Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 There you go CJ now you are doing what you need to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, Counselor said: There you go CJ now you are doing what you need to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanYouDigIt Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Bills miss Dareus tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Smithers Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Jack Del Rio looks the retired cop who lives on a houseboat and solves crimes in his spare time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, mcmurtry86 said: Go back to 2000. Which of those QB's were considered 1st ballot HOF? Not Favre (not yet). Definitely not Manning (not yet), definitely not Warner. Aikman was pretty much the only one. I see absolutely no argument for a "lengthy downturn". You might not get any arguable top 5-7 all time guys other than Rodgers but there's a ton of good/promising young QB's in the league and a few of them are bound to be franchise guys who win at least one Super Bowl at some point in their career. Just so I get a better understanding of your stance here, are you considering Qbs like Newton, Mariota, Stafford and Winston in that category (the latter)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Just now, mcmurtry86 said: Go back to 2000. Which of those QB's were considered 1st ballot HOF? Not Favre (not yet). Definitely not Manning (not yet), definitely not Warner. Aikman was pretty much the only one. I see absolutely no argument for a "lengthy downturn". You might not get any arguable top 5-7 all time guys other than Rodgers but there's a ton of good/promising young QB's in the league and a few of them are bound to be franchise guys who win at least one Super Bowl at some point in their career. Favre had already won 3 MVP awards by 2000. I'd say he was a sure thing at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Asciimo said: even as a pats fan, this game as been boring af Hey if we're gonna get blown out, you better at least enjoy it. Smh don't be spoiled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Kip Smithers said: Jack Del Rio looks the retired cop who lives on a houseboat and solves crimes in his spare time I want that life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Raiders finally get on the board, and the fans pop like they just tied the game. That's one hot crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodo Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kip Smithers said: Jack Del Rio looks the retired cop who lives on a houseboat and solves crimes in his spare time He doesn't look a thing like Chief Wiggum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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