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1 hour ago, Leader said:

 

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If there’s a business anywhere else in America whose proprietor treats his customers with such contempt as Fisher treats A’s fans, I’d like to see it. You’d have to be an absolute sucker, the kind of mark who attracts grifters from miles away on scent alone, to give a single cent of your money to a person like Fisher.

That's what always gets me, in literally no other business would this behavior be acceptable! But because baseball teams are all subsidized by the league he can do this with absolutely no consequences. 

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The other thing about moving is that it's a financial disaster compared to just... investing and turning things around. Playing in a minor league open air stadium in the middle of the desert with what is still going to be the worst team with a bad farm system for a while is not going to draw numbers, it's going to be a money loser for years, it could potentially be a decade before that new stadium gets built! But since Fisher has made his choice none of that matters, the league is essentially just sacrificing an entire franchise's value purely on the hope that the team will draw enough crowds and TV revenue to justify the move. He's going to flatten expenses and keep this team running this lean until their new major league stadium is ready, that could take until 2030! By that point, 5-7 years of running the franchise the same way it's being run in Oakland is going to destroy literally any good will and positive sentiment they could ever get from Vegas locals to begin with.

Given that you cannot rely on tourists to be your backbone in attendance and merch sales, and that Vegas is smaller, poorer, and overwhelmingly likely to give them a worse TV deal than just staying in Oakland would, the move makes essentially no sense other than Fisher deciding he wouldn't do anything if taxpayers didn't pay for his new toy.

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9 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

The other thing about moving is that it's a financial disaster compared to just... investing and turning things around. Playing in a minor league open air stadium in the middle of the desert with what is still going to be the worst team with a bad farm system for a while is not going to draw numbers, it's going to be a money loser for years, it could potentially be a decade before that new stadium gets built! But since Fisher has made his choice none of that matters, the league is essentially just sacrificing an entire franchise's value purely on the hope that the team will draw enough crowds and TV revenue to justify the move. He's going to flatten expenses and keep this team running this lean until their new major league stadium is ready, that could take until 2030! By that point, 5-7 years of running the franchise the same way it's being run in Oakland is going to destroy literally any good will and positive sentiment they could ever get from Vegas locals to begin with.

Given that you cannot rely on tourists to be your backbone in attendance and merch sales, and that Vegas is smaller, poorer, and overwhelmingly likely to give them a worse TV deal than just staying in Oakland would, the move makes essentially no sense other than Fisher deciding he wouldn't do anything if taxpayers didn't pay for his new toy.

I dont understand the tiny capacity target of 30K. If you're building a new stadium....sure, you dont need to recreate the gigantic thing you're leaving....but why shoot so low?

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5 hours ago, Leader said:

I dont understand the tiny capacity target of 30K. If you're building a new stadium....sure, you dont need to recreate the gigantic thing you're leaving....but why shoot so low?

Easier to claim attendance is better when you have low capacity and can mitigate the PR issues from it. And with how low the payroll and operating costs are for the A's (they are top-5 in the league in net profit every year lmao), they can shave that to the bone and don't need attendance numbers to be all that high to make money, which is all Fisher cares about.

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4 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

Easier to claim attendance is better when you have low capacity and can mitigate the PR issues from it. And with how low the payroll and operating costs are for the A's (they are top-5 in the league in net profit every year lmao), they can shave that to the bone and don't need attendance numbers to be all that high to make money, which is all Fisher cares about.

I dont see any way the guy can keep gutting the "new" team of its talent - dissing/diminishing fan attendance - and still maintain the team.  Eventually, the league will have to step in.

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Dodgers a lot better then I expected them to be especially Max Muncy with his HRs even though he’s barely hitting .200. 

Will get some important arms back pretty soon. 

Would be ironic if this Dodgers team won the World Series this year as it’s maybe the least talented team they had in years from top to bottom.

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On 6/4/2023 at 8:49 PM, agarcia34 said:

Bobby Miller is a STUD!! Dodgers would be dumb to not keep him in the rotation 

What's the status on Ryan Pepiot ?

I'm liking Maddux Bruns and Nick Frasso coming up with the Dodgers

Gavin Stone regressed but man are the Dodgers rich on pitching prospects

Nick Robertson a solid RP to watch too

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