Dr A W Niloc Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, adamq said: Vegas, LA Rams, Denver, Atlanta, Indy.. lookin' at all of yous As we saw in 2022, to win the first pick a franchise has to be horrendous on offense and defense. Ambidextrously awful. The Ram passing attack, the Atlanta and Raider ground games, and the Denver defense should win them 4+ games even if the rest of the team pukes the field green. Indy? Ask again after Draft Day. They could end up being insufficiently inept on both sides of the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Probably cleveland they lost a tremendous amount of depth in free agency. Lamar passer Rating in November in December could mean 8 straight losses. So Houston Texans could have 1st overall. Cleveland also is plays the nfc west there is a 90 percent probability they go 0 wins 4 losses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOUCAN Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 My gut says Tennessee. There's really nothing notable about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Not the Colts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Willingly Losing for Williams also Cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, malak1 said: Maybe I need a reality check, but I think they would have to **give** up draft capital to trade Kyler and his contract. thats the problem, they will be very bad and have that massive contract that probably comes with serious dead money and guarantees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Tennessee. I feel like Vrabel is too good of a coach to lose 14-15 games 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: Who takes on that contract/what are they getting for him? just depends on how you feel about Kyler. The contract isn't onerous or anything in terms of market rate qb salaries. Basically 39, 32.5, 42, 36, 37, I think. So about 37 per year. That's Derek Carr money at this point, less than Daniel Jones. Will be closer to league average second QB contract when Burrow, Jackson, Herbert get paid. Trevor Lawrence will probably have a new deal pretty close to a Kyler trade as well, so that would put Kyler like right at 15. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 3 hours ago, adamq said: Vegas, LA Rams, Denver, Atlanta, Indy.. lookin' at all of yous Rams are a darkhorse, but i think it depends on if Stafford gets hurt. Otherwise I think Stafford / Kupp / McVay win too many games on their own 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Forge said: just depends on how you feel about Kyler. The contract isn't onerous or anything in terms of market rate qb salaries. Basically 39, 32.5, 42, 36, 37, I think. So about 37 per year. That's Derek Carr money at this point, less than Daniel Jones. Will be closer to league average second QB contract when Burrow, Jackson, Herbert get paid. Trevor Lawrence will probably have a new deal pretty close to a Kyler trade as well, so that would put Kyler like right at 15. What team with a good quarterback who is relatively healthy ever picks 1 overall though? That’s more or less my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, MWil23 said: What team with a good quarterback who is relatively healthy ever picks 1 overall though? That’s more or less my point. I think that they are assuming that Kyler misses most of next year which is how the Cardinals end up with pick number one. If Kyler is healthy and starts from week 1, I don't think that Arizona would end up with pick one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Tennessee. I feel like Vrabel is too good of a coach to lose 14-15 games Eh, he got halfway there during the 2nd half of last season. 0-7 to end the year? That’s usually a sign that a bottom is falling out. I’m assuming Derrick Henry will be a draft day trade and Ryan Tannehill will have another injury that’ll give us more of the Malik Willis experience - there’s no Josh Dobbs to save them this time (somewhere, VanS is crying into his Teen Beat magazine). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, ET80 said: Eh, he got halfway there during the 2nd half of last season. 0-7 to end the year? That’s usually a sign that a bottom is falling out. I’m assuming Derrick Henry will be a draft day trade and Ryan Tannehill will have another injury that’ll give us more of the Malik Willis experience - there’s no Josh Dobbs to save them this time (somewhere, VanS is crying into his Teen Beat magazine). oh I didnt realize Dobbs was gone too. Guess Cleveland saw something in his eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Friend Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 If Chicago is picking first again next season, do they move on from Fields? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Louis Friend said: If Chicago is picking first again next season, do they move on from Fields? 100% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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