AP_allday2869 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: I'm hoping that Chandler takes a big leap forward this year and supplants Mattison as RB1. I think he offers more as a pass-catcher than Mattison. I'd be happy if McBride took that role too, if he can show he can be a receiving threat. I prefer a bell-cow back over a committee because it makes the offense a little less predictable, but as long as the RBs are more efficient than Dalvin was last year, I'll be pleased and think the offense will be even better in year two. Fun Fact: Chandler, Mattison and McBride are all listed at 5'11". Their respective weights are 204, 216, and 209. Dalvin is 5'10" and 209, and Kene is 6'1' and 209. I'm really bulliish on Chandler. He was really good for us in the preseason last year, but just unfortunately got hurt at the wrong time. I expect a really productive year from him this year as committee back. I think he could be a really dominant receiving back for us, at the very least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 I have no expectations of Chandler. I'm sure he'll be fine, but preseason performance is rather irrelevant and in the brief moments he played last year in the regular season, there was nothing overly impressive. I'm just hoping for a better rushing attack from anyone, because it was like running into a brick wall last year and then on rare occasions, pulling a Kool-Aid Man. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 During a press conference on Wednesday, following organized team activities, RT Brian O’Neil elaborated on the various conversations that the offensive line has been having in their second year compared to their first. O’Neil: "We’ve talked about it in the o-line room and how, based on specific schemes, the linebackers might fall back a little bit more or they might play frontside a little bit more based on different things that they see with their eyes. That’s what we’re talking about differently this year than we were last year. Last year, we were talking about ‘This is this play, this is who you have on this play. Now run it.’ Now, the next step is ‘Okay, what does the defense see? How is this different from the other scheme that we run that looks similar? And what’s the next level of understanding for us?’ I don’t know if that answers the question, but there’s a deeper understanding of the intricacies on our end." https://vikingswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/04/minnesota-vikings-organized-team-activities-brian-oneill-kirk-cousins/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2shMCRgq-DIAjqRCUXAQuMewvFPvzi12aV7LPqvpyqGGzkXGgpc5Nq9J0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 Quarterback QB1: Kirk Cousins QB2: Nick MullensQB3: Jaren Hall Running Back RB1: Dalvin Cook RB2: Alexander Mattison RB3: Ty Chandler RB4: Kene NwangwuRB5: DeWayne McBride Fullback FB1: C.J. Ham Wide Receiver WR1: Justin JeffersonWR2: Jordan Addison WR3: K.J. Osborn WR4: Jalen Nailor WR5: Jalen Reagor WR6: Trishton Jackson WR7: Blake Proehl WR8: Brandon PowellWR9: Cephus Johnson WR10: Malik Knowles WR11: Thayer Thomas Tight End TE1: T.J. Hockenson TE2: Josh Oliver TE3: Johnny Mundt TE4: Ben Ellefson TE5: Nick MuseTE6: Ben Sims Left Tackle LT1: Christian Darrisaw LT2: Blake Brandel LT3: Vederian Lowe Left Guard LG1: Ezra ClevelandLG2: Alan Ali Center C1: Garrett Bradbury C2: Austin Schlottmann C3: Josh Sokol Right Guard RG1: Ed Ingram RG2: Chris ReedRG3: Jacky Chen Right Tackle RT1: Brian O’Neill RT2: Oli Udoh Commentary, Concern, and Scrutiny: The offense has potential, folks. Kevin O’Connell – a former NFL QB who specializes in offense – must feel like a kid in a candy store. He’ll be able to trot out a truly formidable group for 11 personnel given that the primary pass catchers will consist of Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, K.J. Osborn, and T.J. Hockenson. Good luck slowing down that foursome, especially since Alexander Mattison has surprisingly silky mitts. Even more encouraging is that Minnesota won’t be constrained to just that personnel grouping. Retaining C.J. Ham and adding Josh Oliver means Minnesota will feature plenty of 21, 12, and 22 personnel. Essentially, the team can pivot away from a more pass-heavy look if teams are in a 2-high defensive structure. Adding the extra muscle can allow O’Connell to bludgeon the other team’s light box. Perhaps the main area of concern is along the interior of the offensive line. As Josh Frey has noted on different occasions, injuries aplenty really depleted that interior in 2022. The team struggled without Garrett Bradbury and Austin Schlottmann. Have they done enough to fix up the iOL? https://purpleptsd.com/2023/vikings/vikings-analysis/the-complete-vikings/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 Adam Thielen: "I think everyone's been a little bit wrong about K.J. I just think that he is a WR1 in this league and I think he has so much talent. I think his attitude, his effort, the way he approaches every single day. His mindset is one of the best I've ever been around." vikings.com 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticNorseman Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Like anything in life, continuity usually leads to improvement. This offense will be solid as long as the O-Line stays healthy. The offense could rival the '98 unit for explosiveness. Cook's as good as Robert Smith, Hock is better than Sass, both lines are solid . . . Gets down to Cousins playing fast and the WRs doing their thing. This group is not 3-Deep . . . No one will be. But, i do believe these guys can pose major challenges and put up 30+ TDs through the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worm Guts Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) For this group to compare to’98, Addison is going to need to be HOF caliber, which is probably hoping for too much. I’m not sure the offensive line compares very well either. The ‘23 offense could be a top 5 offense in the NFL next year, but ‘98 was a top 5 all time offense. Edited May 8, 2023 by Worm Guts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Worm Guts said: For this group to compare to’98, Addison is going to need to be HOF caliber, which is probably hoping for too much. I’m not sure the offensive line compares very well either. The ‘23 offense could be a top 5 offense in the NFL next year, but ‘98 was a top 5 all time offense. Going to need them to score more than 30 points in the playoffs with this defense. Are they that much better than last years team who couldn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Are they that much better than last years team who couldn’t? I would say absolutely, yes. The addition of a coach like Flores, who actually knows how to call and adjust a defense during the game is going to be a significant improvement by itself. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 I think they are better then last year for 2 main reasons 1. second year in the same offense with the majority of the same coaches and same playcaller, is a big deal. 2. continuity on the OL, and contiunity on the offense in general. They really only lost AT, and they made moves to improve his spot too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Minnesota drafted Addison with lofty expectations, all but concluding Osborn’s WR2 dreams as a Viking. Even if Osborn fired up 1,100 yards and 12 touchdowns this season, would the Vikings sign him to a giant payday when they just drafted Addison with 1st-Round stock less than a year prior? Probably not. For Osborn to remain on the Vikings roster after 2023, Addison either has to struggle mightily or encounter a career-derailing injury. And after Osborn signs a hefty contract with the highest bidder next March — boom — Minnesota will need a WR3. They’ll glance at the depth chart and see the name, Jalen Nailor. The club will know by then if Nailor stood out as a sophomore in the league, and if he did he could fill the WR3 shoes left behind by Osborn — or Addison if Osborn leaves and the USC alumnus is promoted to WR2. Nailor can reasonably eye WR4 responsibilities in 2023 and perhaps experience more passing-game targets if Jefferson, Addison, or Osborn miss games due to injury. But with Osborn not long for this purple world, Nailor is really just auditioning this season for WR3 in 2024. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/opinion/playing-the-long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Minnesota drafted Addison with lofty expectations, all but concluding Osborn’s WR2 dreams as a Viking. Even if Osborn fired up 1,100 yards and 12 touchdowns this season, would the Vikings sign him to a giant payday when they just drafted Addison with 1st-Round stock less than a year prior? Probably not. For Osborn to remain on the Vikings roster after 2023, Addison either has to struggle mightily or encounter a career-derailing injury. And after Osborn signs a hefty contract with the highest bidder next March — boom — Minnesota will need a WR3. They’ll glance at the depth chart and see the name, Jalen Nailor. The club will know by then if Nailor stood out as a sophomore in the league, and if he did he could fill the WR3 shoes left behind by Osborn — or Addison if Osborn leaves and the USC alumnus is promoted to WR2. Nailor can reasonably eye WR4 responsibilities in 2023 and perhaps experience more passing-game targets if Jefferson, Addison, or Osborn miss games due to injury. But with Osborn not long for this purple world, Nailor is really just auditioning this season for WR3 in 2024. https://vikingsterritory.com/2023/news/opinion/playing-the-long It's pretty great to see the team is thinking ahead and making succession plans that will provide cap flexibility. Still, I like Osborn a lot and would be ecstatic if we could find a way to keep him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 1 hour ago, wcblack34 said: It's pretty great to see the team is thinking ahead and making succession plans that will provide cap flexibility. ja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelKing728 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 11:00 AM, wcblack34 said: It's pretty great to see the team is thinking ahead and making succession plans that will provide cap flexibility. Still, I like Osborn a lot and would be ecstatic if we could find a way to keep him. I think this will be the best group of top 4 receivers we've had since 2009 (Rice, Berrian, Harvin, Lewis) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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