Old Guy Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Seems we are always historically late in releasing our cuts. Let's track all cuts/roster moves here, unless we cut Cox, don't post that here because my feelings can't take it. Edited August 27, 2023 by Old Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 The Irishman it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: The Irishman it is. Is this a surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Dang, should have listed O'Donnell as my surprise cut. Thought for sure he would be kept for his superior holding on FG's to give Anders all the help he can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Wow, big surprise! I kinda love it, actually. It's a rebuild year, lets just go all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Dang, should have listed O'Donnell as my surprise cut. Thought for sure he would be kept for his superior holding on FG's to give Anders all the help he can get. Looks like Rich might have lost the first battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Dang, should have listed O'Donnell as my surprise cut. Thought for sure he would be kept for his superior holding on FG's to give Anders all the help he can get. This was a surprise to me. Tracking the missed FG's, we find that the vast majority of misses came with Whelan as the holder. Is a couple of yards of punting really worth missing FG's? They tend to go through this cutdown process by position groups starting with the special teams, is a decision on the long snapper next? Edited August 28, 2023 by R T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, Old Guy said: Is this a surprise? Not really, young team, take the young guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, R T said: This was a surprise to me. Tracking the missed FG's, we find that the vast majority of misses came with Whelan as the holder. Is a couple of yards of punting really worth missing FG's? No! My guess it they are betting on him being able to get better to good at holding. Whereas O'Donnell isn't going to suddenly kick if further at this point in his career. They better be right on his holding getting better because it could cost us a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, R T said: This was a surprise to me. Tracking the missed FG's, we find that the vast majority of misses came with Whelan as the holder. Is a couple of yards of punting really worth missing FG's? They tend to go through this cutdown process by position groups starting with the special teams, is a decision on the long snapper next? Seems like a very foolish move IMO. I had basically written Whelan off completely because my understanding is that Carlson had been WAY better overall with O'Donnell as the holder. Head scratcher for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I strongly suspect that the holding disparity is not as large as it would seem. It seems very likely that with a large enough sample size, things would normalize out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I strongly suspect that the holding disparity is not as large as it would seem. It seems very likely that with a large enough sample size, things would normalize out. Or this is simply Gute's genius move to prevent people from blaming his draft pick Carlson when he misses a big one in the regular season...."see, it was Whelan's fault for not holding it correctly." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I get it .. O'Donnell was a bottom 3rd of the league punter at the end of the day, but it will be questioned if the young punter and young kicker have a lot of struggles on XP's and FG's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Seems like a very foolish move IMO. I had basically written Whelan off completely because my understanding is that Carlson had been WAY better overall with O'Donnell as the holder. Head scratcher for me. It was only 2 years ago they made to decision to go with the big legged guy who sucked at holding with Bojorquez and it was a disaster. By the end of the season, they couldn't wait to move on from him. Hopefully this isn't a repeat of history. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 maybe bojorquez wasn't that bad of a holderr and it's actually the kicker who misses kicks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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