Dallas94Ware Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: I mean, this is true about other positions too. Why can rookie wide receivers come in and ball fairy regularly? What about offensive linemen? At TE, the size/athleticism advantage is stark. In my mind, it should be easier than other positions to transition, not harder. It’ll forever be wild to me that you can’t go pluck some power forward playing in Europe, whose NBA dreams have been dashed, and make him a dominant NFL tight end. Because most receivers, OL and other positions have played football their whole lives. Rare examples of guys like the Eagles' Mailata, but mostly all of them have played the sport for years. The technique or the base of it already exists. The study habits and work that goes into it was there for years too, just not at a pro level At TE,many of these guys were basketball players whos heart was never really in the sport of football. I think another part of it is asking these huge guys to play with the footwork of men half their size. You need to be 6'5" and 255 pounds, but beat man coverage with footwork similar to a man that's 6' flat and 200 pounds playing receiver. It's not as natural to a guy that size. And because of the changes to rules that favor deep passes, TEs have evolved from bad route runners who can muscle their way for a 4 yard hitch route and gain you 10 yards, into someone who needs to shift and separate from a 205 pound safety in man coverage and beat him on a deep corner or a post or split the zones on a seam route. A lot more ks asked of them now. And with their size it just isn't as simple to learn to do. Especially when football is pretty new to the guy as it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Cut Gallup, draft Coleman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Brenden Rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D82 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 If we can get Jeremiah Trotter, we should do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBoys Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 1:53 PM, D82 said: If we can get Jeremiah Trotter, we should do it I always wanted his dad on my team. Nepo babies tend to do well in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVScout Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 1:53 PM, D82 said: If we can get Jeremiah Trotter, we should do it https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jeremiah-TrotterJr-LB-Clemson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiller Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hmm. I don’t mind a high pick on a player who is guaranteed to be a difference maker in the NFL. Giving us another stud defender is never a bad option but needs to be a Sure fire non miss type. right NOW… 1st OT 2nd best player available. 3rd best player available. 4th. Another OL I guess if pushed I think CB is a valid option to upgrade Lewis who seems to be having a down year. Then LB insurance Overshown is not available as expected. as always I am disinclined to go TE in the top 4. I use Pitts as an example. Did ATL get any real extra value from Pitts than say Schultz or Ferguson last few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 2:28 PM, quiller said: as always I am disinclined to go TE in the top 4. I use Pitts as an example. Did ATL get any real extra value from Pitts than say Schultz or Ferguson last few games. If they draft a TE early I will lose it, ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 11/14/2023 at 12:28 PM, quiller said: Hmm. I don’t mind a high pick on a player who is guaranteed to be a difference maker in the NFL. Giving us another stud defender is never a bad option but needs to be a Sure fire non miss type. right NOW… 1st OT 2nd best player available. 3rd best player available. 4th. Another OL I guess if pushed I think CB is a valid option to upgrade Lewis who seems to be having a down year. Then LB insurance Overshown is not available as expected. as always I am disinclined to go TE in the top 4. I use Pitts as an example. Did ATL get any real extra value from Pitts than say Schultz or Ferguson last few games. To be fair, Atlanta’s head coach is too stupid to give Bjian Robinson the ball more than like 12 times a game on average, so no one should have any confidence that he knows what to do with a TE other than block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Another WR to look at is Troy Franklin. He runs in high 4.2s-mid 4.3s. Blazing speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardHawk Posted November 26, 2023 Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 Zero chance at him, but I might sell the farm to match Jared Verse with Micah. Total stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 12 hours ago, WizardHawk said: Zero chance at him, but I might sell the farm to match Jared Verse with Micah. Total stud. That would be really exciting. Another guy would be Laiatu Latu out of UCLA - but he's another one who's probably going high in the draft. Guys that are a bit more realistic would be Brandon Dorlus (though he's more of an interior edge guy), J.T. Tuimoloau out of tOSU is also another guy to keep an eye on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 1 hour ago, D82 said: That would be really exciting. Another guy would be Laiatu Latu out of UCLA - but he's another one who's probably going high in the draft. Guys that are a bit more realistic would be Brandon Dorlus (though he's more of an interior edge guy), J.T. Tuimoloau out of tOSU is also another guy to keep an eye on. I’m still in the early stages of learning this draft class, but it the offensive tackle group is anywhere near as strong as it’s being billed, seems like that would be the early favorite for need meeting BPA at our draft pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D82 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 22 minutes ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: I’m still in the early stages of learning this draft class, but it the offensive tackle group is anywhere near as strong as it’s being billed, seems like that would be the early favorite for need meeting BPA at our draft pick. Oh for sure. Dorlus and Tuimoloau are more likely 2nd-3rd round guys. Question is does the club move on from Tyron and shift Tyler to OT - thus making guard a need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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