anewdawn Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 15 hours ago, AkronsWitness said: My thoughts is this....and it's crazy....but here ya go. Wait until the trade deadline when CHI is 1-10 and firmly in the Williams race. Then trade a 3rd for Justin Fields to sit a year behind Wilson. PSA I like Fields more than others and fully think he is being mismanaged. If you can pull him out of that dumpster fire and with a real offensive minded HC like Sean....you could get your 10 yr franchise QB for pennies on the dollar based on the Bears own stupidity I would love this and I totally agree with your thoughts on why Fields is doing so poorly there. A few more misspoken words by him may only add fuel to him being traded but I think a lot of it will depend on where we sit standing wise. Like if we are in a top 3/4 draft pick on our own do we just go with the college prospect whomever that may be but I do value the experience Fields already has....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, big_palooka said: Fields can't read defenses, period. He doesn't have it upstairs. In Payton's offense that relies on timing and being able to read defenses, he'd be a disaster. People need to stop overrating Fields. He's a terrific athlete who people want to be a good QB. He's awful, the Bears coaching is awful. Both things can be true. On a You Tube video I watched this week, an Ohio St. fan said this: Quote As an Ohio State fan, I cringed when the Bears drafted Justin Fields. It was the worst place for him. He would've been better sitting behind a vet for 2-3 years. A shame, because he's a hell of an athlete. He MIGHT even have a better chance on the Jets. It was on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LN-JcuHA8 Cowherd was also talking about Wilson. He said that he looked 39, not 34, and that Stidham was brought in for a reason. Edited September 23, 2023 by 7DnBrnc53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, anewdawn said: I would love this and I totally agree with your thoughts on why Fields is doing so poorly there. A few more misspoken words by him may only add fuel to him being traded but I think a lot of it will depend on where we sit standing wise. Like if we are in a top 3/4 draft pick on our own do we just go with the college prospect whomever that may be but I do value the experience Fields already has....... If we can get a top rookie Payton is almost certainly going there. What he looks for in a QB in his system is where Fields struggles at. For a guy in his 3rd year who a team is forced to have to commit the fully guaranteed 5th year 20M+ option this upcoming offseason and then he gets more expensive after that? I don’t see it all. I chose to trade back in the GM game as my top option (and this had 1.1 - oh well) but I wouldn’t have argued against taking Fields at 1.9 2+ years ago. But taking him now after his cheap years are done and he’s still not ready to run a functional system (CHI coaching def earns part of the blame) would be a massive mistake. Edited September 23, 2023 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 1 hour ago, anewdawn said: I would love this and I totally agree with your thoughts on why Fields is doing so poorly there. A few more misspoken words by him may only add fuel to him being traded but I think a lot of it will depend on where we sit standing wise. Like if we are in a top 3/4 draft pick on our own do we just go with the college prospect whomever that may be but I do value the experience Fields already has....... I like him better than any prospect in this class not named Caleb Williams. For instance I would take Fields over Maye if that was the choice. Especially considering he is a top tier athlete at the position with experience. I just believe in coaching and I saw Fields put up amazing passing numbers in college. Put him with a really good offensive mind like Payton and it could get scary. Payton could unlock the fully potential of Fields and the full potential of Fields as a passer and runner is a potential All Pro. You just have to save him from the Bears before it's too late and he becomes mentally broken for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted September 23, 2023 Author Share Posted September 23, 2023 6 hours ago, big_palooka said: Fields can't read defenses, period. He doesn't have it upstairs. In Payton's offense that relies on timing and being able to read defenses, he'd be a disaster. People need to stop overrating Fields. He's a terrific athlete who people want to be a good QB. He's awful, the Bears coaching is awful. Both things can be true. As a Bears fan I agree with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: I like him better than any prospect in this class not named Caleb Williams. For instance I would take Fields over Maye if that was the choice. Especially considering he is a top tier athlete at the position with experience. I just believe in coaching and I saw Fields put up amazing passing numbers in college. Put him with a really good offensive mind like Payton and it could get scary. Payton could unlock the fully potential of Fields and the full potential of Fields as a passer and runner is a potential All Pro. You just have to save him from the Bears before it's too late and he becomes mentally broken for good. If you have no draft prospects and he’s cheap everyone is worth a look. QB is that important to dismiss any possibility. But he’s not cheap after next year and you have to lock in the 5th year likely well before you know if he can be fixed. Assuming he’s available it would still be a mistake to pass up a legit Rd1 prospect like Maye to go there. Those first 3 years being cheap matters a ton. If we have no other choices then it’s about the price. But being this poorly developed in his 3rd year is not something I think Payton & Paton would invest heavily in. Nor should they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoBruin Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 17 hours ago, Broncofan said: First no Browning or Sterns now no Simmons. Woof. Athleticism on defense…a little less than desired! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 (edited) edit: wrong thread Edited September 24, 2023 by BroncoSojia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaBronco Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 This is gonna get ugly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 Well this is going about as predicted. McDaniel is coaching circles around Vance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 10:02 AM, lomaxgrUK said: I just can't see it. Not enough speed, not enough athleticism, not enough talent. Every bit of this on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 That was vintage Russ. Seattle Russ. Your first read isn’t there - they wanted Jeudy on the hook out of the backfield, Russ bought time and hit Sutton for the TD. More of that please! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 That's the sort of drive needed from the start. I think it was a mistake to defer. We should've taken the ball to do that exact type of drive. Just can't believe the pathetic tackling on display from this Defense, not to mention the lack of intelligence shown in the secondary. Bassey hesitating on that speed motion was inexcusable. He must have been looking at that all week, and he goes for the run fake. Pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontanaBronco Posted September 24, 2023 Share Posted September 24, 2023 How frustrating is it that for so many years all we needed was a half way competent offense to pair with an elite defense. Now that it looks like we may have it, our defense is clueless. Sitting in zone and giving players free releases is asking to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnAngryAmerican Posted September 24, 2023 Author Share Posted September 24, 2023 If I’m the Walmarts I fire Vance tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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