dcat Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) Welcome to the 2024 Last Chance Mock. The 3-hour clock will begin at 3:00 pm EDT on April 1, 2024. This is the Discussion thread. Place your selections in the Selections thread. Here is the spreadsheet we will be using to track: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g9ACNZsBLHmMaD--rogjvqzhtH-ZN5rYz1TJm6EHS44/edit?usp=sharing (viewing only). You can also find the link in my signature here. Here is your 2024 GM list: AFC East Bills - @JetsandI Dolphins - @mountainpd Patriots - @Eastern_Shore_Fan Jets - @dcat AFC North Bengals - @downundermike Ravens - @DTMW78 Steelers - @Cbrunn Browns - @elfman1955 AFC South Jaguars - @Daniel Titans - @Daniel Colts - @RTTRUTH Texans - @jch1911 AFC West Chiefs - @Forge Chargers - @MikeT14 Raiders - @FinneasGage Broncos - @Scoundrel NFC East Eagles - @EaglesPeteC Cowboys - @MaddHatter Giants - @Wpob Commanders - @MikeT14 NFC North Vikings - @vike daddy Lions - @JetsandI Packers - @beekay414 Bears - @Madmike90 NFC South Buccaneers - @dcat Panthers - @Packerraymond Saints - @Packerraymond Falcons - @ovfd55 NFC West 49ers - @Forge Seahawks - @RTTRUTH Rams - @downundermike Cardinals - @ovfd55 Edited April 4 by dcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 (edited) Guidelines and rules: trading of 2024 picks is allowed DM other GMs for trade negotiations. Please conform the values of your trades to something that is at least reasonably close to either the Jimmy Johnson traditional value chart or the Rich Hill value chart. JJ values will be in the spreadsheet for your convenience. no trading between teams with the same GM no trading of future year picks (obvious reasons). no trading of current NFL players (therefore no salary cap/contractual issues for this draft, i.e. you can't trade for Brandon Aiyuk) 3 hour clock for the first three rounds; 2 hours for the remaining rounds. Instead of assigned time slots, we run a live clock. Clock will run from 10:00 am EDT to 11:59 pm and then will pause and resume the next morning at the daily start time. For example: if you go OTC at 10:00 pm, the clock pause at midnight and resumes at 10:00 am. You would have 1 hour remaining to place your pick. (We can begin earlier, at 9 am EDT, but only if it's confirmed by any west coast GMs) missed picks will be skipped temporarily, but will be filled in via consensus or a replacement GM if the original GM remains AWOL. DM a list of players in advance to me if you know you won't be able to make your pick when you go OTC. I will place the pick for you so that we don't needlessly stall. Remember to tag the next 2 GMs up (i.e. @dcat) use 2024 Last Chance Mock - Selection Thread for picks and verified trades. use 2024 Last Chance Mock - Discussion Thread for all the commentary and desire to trade up or down and DM other GMs for trade negotiations. Caveat: spreadsheet has rankings by position and consensus from several popular (and unpopular) sources from before, during or just after the combine. Use at your own discretion and take them for what they are worth. Spreadsheet has ~500 players. Others can/will be added, as needed. Editing privileges to anyone willing to help manage the spreadsheet during the mock. No special skills are needed. Basically looking for a co-manager for when I'm not around especially. It's a lot for one person. Edited April 1 by dcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 (edited) In case you missed it. Editing privileges to anyone willing to help manage the spreadsheet during the mock. No special skills are needed. Basically looking for a co-manager for when I'm not around especially. It's a lot for one person. Edited April 1 by dcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 So I can’t trade future picks of current players? How am I supposed to move up in draft or gain more picks I was going for pick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, mountainpd said: So I can’t trade future picks of current players? How am I supposed to move up in draft or gain more picks I was going for pick 1 I have the same question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, mountainpd said: So I can’t trade future picks of current players? How am I supposed to move up in draft or gain more picks I was going for pick 1 with current picks. If you don't have the draft capital, then you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 (edited) @mountainpd @jch1911 and everyone: here are a few examples from another mock using these rules. (the far right column are Rich Hill values and the other is JJ value) Trade 2 4 Ari Chi 1800 491 9, 75, 100 Chi Ari 1665 485 Trade 3 7 Ten Atl 1500 426 8, 109 Atl Ten 1476 436 Picks from to JJ value RH Value Trade 36 Bears Rams 540 166 52, 83 Rams Bears 555 161 Trade 54 Cle Ari 360 104 66, 104 Ari Cle 346 109 Trade 67, 167 Min LV 279.6 84.6 77, 112, 223 LV Min 277.6 91.3 Trade 82, 191 Ind Bal 195 60.4 93, 113 Bal Ind 196 69 Edited April 1 by dcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 19 minutes ago, dcat said: @mountainpd @jch1911 and everyone: here are a few examples from another mock using these rules. (the far right column are Rich Hill values and the other is JJ value) Trade 2 4 Ari Chi 1800 491 9, 75, 100 Chi Ari 1665 485 Trade 3 7 Ten Atl 1500 426 8, 109 Atl Ten 1476 436 Picks from to JJ value RH Value Trade 36 Bears Rams 540 166 52, 83 Rams Bears 555 161 Trade 54 Cle Ari 360 104 66, 104 Ari Cle 346 109 Trade 67, 167 Min LV 279.6 84.6 77, 112, 223 LV Min 277.6 91.3 Trade 82, 191 Ind Bal 195 60.4 93, 113 Bal Ind 196 69 I understand about using draft capital to move up and down the board. In most mocks that I have been a part of: (1) You can use current players (not recent signings or TRULY unrealistic trades) to also move up and down the board (2) Many mocks let you use picks from the next season's draft as well (e.g. 2025) You said those are not allowed in this mock. That's fine. Just different. Happy mocking and may the odds be forever in your favor! Also I can help edit the board if you need. I just helped @MikeT14 along with @EaglesPeteC in a mock and I think I got the hang of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Titans are interested in trading down. Get at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Vikings are the only team with two first round picks, talk to me. but... since you can't trade future picks or present players, you'd need to trade a lot to get my two firsts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, jch1911 said: I understand about using draft capital to move up and down the board. In most mocks that I have been a part of: (1) You can use current players (not recent signings or TRULY unrealistic trades) to also move up and down the board (2) Many mocks let you use picks from the next season's draft as well (e.g. 2025) You said those are not allowed in this mock. That's fine. Just different. Happy mocking and may the odds be forever in your favor! Also I can help edit the board if you need. I just helped @MikeT14 along with @EaglesPeteC in a mock and I think I got the hang of it. Hi jch, Yeah I like watching the other all-in style mock drafts that take place on this forum. Most of you guys are very reasonable in making trades that fit the salary cap limits and not of players who would create a gazllion dollars in dead cap etc. That's a whole other stratosphere that I neither have the time nor desire to undertake. In this sense, yes, this mock is limited. But let me say this from years of observation of the mocks in this forum... in some of those all-in style mocks, during the draft portion itself, you see way too many current players being shipped out or in. In the NFL, at most you get a very small handful, sometimes none, current player trades during the actual draft, and when there are they are most often not star players. Yet, on some of these mocks in this forum GMs have flipped current players like there is no tomorrow. Extremely unrealistic IMO. Also, although the free agency period is a blast watching you guys in those, when it comes to the mock draft portion, picks are contingent on those fictitious free agent movements and the subsequent mock draft itself is totally different based on the wrong team needs (compared to reality). That makes those all-in mocks here even more unrealistic, which is another reason why I prefer this format. I want to examine the current real team needs for the mock rather than the altered team needs after the pretend free-agency period. I just enjoy the mock more that way personally. Anyhow, thanks for giving this a go. I think you were GM in one these Last Chance mocks before. I've done 3 of them here through the years, so maybe. I'll send you a message re: assisting w/spreadsheet while I'm off line. It will speed things up here for sure. Edited April 1 by dcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainpd Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 1 hour ago, Daniel said: Titans are interested in trading down. Get at me. Dolphins offer pick 21 for pick 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 Love me some publicized trade negotiations... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcat Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 I wasn't planning on a separate trade announcement thread. Too many threads. Usually, GMs use the Discussion thread when looking to trade up or down. Specific offers/negotiations best done by PM. OK to use selection thread to announce a confirmed trade. Remember to send me a PM with the trade details for the spread sheet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 i'm starting to have intermittent connectivity problems with my wifi, so hopefully it won't crap out on me at crucial times today. if you're trying to reach me and i don't respond, hang in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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