Packerraymond Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Reaper said: Is there something Im missing with McCray? He seemed pretty solid to me, if my recollection is correct his run blocking was pretty good too. Enlighten me LEADER. He's a guard. You have to really suck to be noticed there. Like Don Barclay level suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 It feels like Minnesota has a better FO/Management/Coaching than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, MathMan said: It feels like Minnesota has a better FO/Management/Coaching than us. They have a better fire place than us that's for sure. Big FA lure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, MathMan said: It feels like Minnesota has a better FO/Management/Coaching than us. Depends on if you are focused on winning in the offseason or the actual season. They are arguably superior in the former and clearly inferior in the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Depends on if you are focused on winning in the offseason or the actual season. They are arguably superior in the former and clearly inferior in the latter. the offseason is longer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Hey MathMan, can you help me build some graphs ? I want to chart Relative Packer-Fan Anxiety ( RPFA) as a function of viking news-making events. (VNME) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 16, 2018 Author Share Posted March 16, 2018 53 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: Hey MathMan, can you help me build some graphs ? I want to chart Relative Packer-Fan Anxiety ( RPFA) as a function of viking news-making events. (VNME) Graph? You need a graph? How's a about a straight line with an arrow on top? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, MathMan said: It feels like Minnesota has a better FO/Management/Coaching than us. The only thing they do better is poach old cast offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 A little light reading..... Born in Lisbon (Louisiana, not Portugal) in 1934, William Delford “Willie” Davis played for the Green Bay Packers from 1960 to 1969. In what seems to be an ongoing mantra in this series of Green Bay Packers inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame, although Davis ended up in both the Packers and the NFL Hall of Fame, he wasn’t selected until the 15th round of the 1956 draft – pick #181 overall. But it was the Cleveland Browns, not the Packers, who selected Davis. And they utilized him as an offensive lineman before trading him to Green Bay. To say Davis ended up exceeding expectations is putting it mildly. Moved to defensive end by Packers coach Vince Lombardi, Davis especially excelled at causing and recovering fumbles. In his career, he pounced on 21 fumbles (a team record, one more than both Ray Nitschke and Johnnie Gray, returning one for a scoop-6. Perhaps even more valuable to the Packers was Davis’ expertise as a sack artist. Precisely how many sacks Davis got in his career is unknown, however, as that statistic wasn’t kept until 1981. But it’s quite likely that he is the real (but not “certified”) Packers all-time sack leader. In fact, Davis has gone on record stating that he believes this to be the case, saying that he averaged in the teens in sacks for 10 seasons, with 25 one season. Researchers claim Davis tallied upwards of 100 sacks in his career with Green Bay, quite possibly 120 or more. The official team record for sacks belongs to Clay Matthews, who has amassed 81 sacks in his nine years with the team. For those wondering (those not wondering can skip this sentence),Reggie White ended up with 68.5 sacks in six seasons with Green Bay. Besides sacks and fumble recoveries, Davis tallied two interceptions in his career, and two of his sacks were also safeties. He shares the team record for safeties with Tim Harris, who had both of his in the same season. Davis played on five championship Packers teams, two of those being the victors in the first two Super Bowls. He also ended up with five Pro Bowl appearances, and five first-team selections as an All-Pro. Not only that, Davis was also selected as a virtual member of the 1960s all-decade team. Willie Davis was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1981, the year sacks started to be officially tallied. One would think that tapes, or “box scores,” or at least play-by-play accounts of all the games Davis played in would be available, so that an accurate tally of Davis’ career sack count could be made. If it’s true that he averaged “in the teens” in sacks for 10 years, that would mean a minimum of 130 sacks, putting Davis way ahead Matthews in the team sack record totals. And so, if an accurate sack count for Davis were to be compiled, and subsequently accepted as official, it would seem to set a new team sack record that would be unlikely to ever be broken. Not bad for a guy selected in the 15th round of the draft, and initially viewed as an offensive line prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, Leader said: Besides sacks and fumble recoveries, Davis tallied two interceptions in his career, and two of his sacks were also safeties. He shares the team record for safeties with Tim Harris, who had both of his in the same season. Tim Harris. I remember reading a Lindy's 'Pro Preview' magazine that talked about each team. Tim Harris was one of the few bright spots on the Packers then (along with Ken Ruettgers, Chuck Cecil and not so many others). Thay described Harris as "An enraged octopus" coming off the edge, I loved that comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 "The Philadelphia Eagles proved last month that a team doesn’t need really good cornerbacks to win a Super Bowl, even in today’s pass-crazy NFL. In Ronald Darby, Jalen Mills and Patrick Robinson, the Eagles didn’t have anything close to a true No. 1 cover man. It was a pretty ordinary group. But they had something to make up for it: a pass rush" http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/03/19/dougherty-pass-rush-could-cure-packers-cornerback-problem/439586002/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Leader said: "The Philadelphia Eagles proved last month that a team doesn’t need really good cornerbacks to win a Super Bowl, even in today’s pass-crazy NFL. In Ronald Darby, Jalen Mills and Patrick Robinson, the Eagles didn’t have anything close to a true No. 1 cover man. It was a pretty ordinary group. But they had something to make up for it: a pass rush" http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/03/19/dougherty-pass-rush-could-cure-packers-cornerback-problem/439586002/ Not sure if PFF grades are the best judge, but just because non of those 3 CB's were not names recognized as true #1's that they did not play like it. Darby grade 90+ Mills grade 75+ Robinson grade 98 Yes the pass rush helps and might be responsible for some of those lofty grades, but those 3 CB's balled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, squire12 said: Not sure if PFF grades are the best judge, but just because non of those 3 CB's were not names recognized as true #1's that they did not play like it. Darby grade 90+ Mills grade 75+ Robinson grade 98 Yes the pass rush helps and might be responsible for some of those lofty grades, but those 3 CB's balled out. Well - its something of a symbiotic relationship. A good pass rush will enhance secondary performance. Perhaps thats whats indicated in those PFF numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: Not sure if PFF grades are the best judge, but just because non of those 3 CB's were not names recognized as true #1's that they did not play like it. Darby grade 90+ Mills grade 75+ Robinson grade 98 Yes the pass rush helps and might be responsible for some of those lofty grades, but those 3 CB's balled out. 89 on Robinson BTW. And yeah those things are so easily affected by the play around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNPackfan32 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Morgan Burnett to the Steelers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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