JBURGE Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, 15412 said: 25 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Is Lane Taylor at 4 million dollars worth trading a draft pick for if you know his home team isn't going to keep him? Did we keep him this year? Can we keep him next year? He has started a number of NFL games and in the right system this young player may prosper beyond what we have seen thus far. A team would not be trading for a maybe, they would be trading for what they see is a young NFL starter. Then again, perhaps he takes a pay cut to stay with us. Or maybe the team as in this year sees him as valuable insurance. That's how we sell him on draft day or later. Nobody is saying he's going to bring a ton, but might bring a team in need a greater likelihood of a starter more so than a 5th round pick gives them. Lane Taylor is 30 years old I don't think it would take more than a 7th to trade for him, but none of us can see us keeping him at that price tag, so why would anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 If we are not going to pay the price tag on Taylor, would anyone else? Meaning, if he would play for less with someone else he would play for less with us. He may become cheap insurance. He may be 30, but he has a young body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, 15412 said: Did we keep him this year? Can we keep him next year? He has started a number of NFL games and in the right system this young player may prosper beyond what we have seen thus far. A team would not be trading for a maybe, they would be trading for what they see is a young NFL starter. Then again, perhaps he takes a pay cut to stay with us. Or maybe the team as in this year sees him as valuable insurance. That's how we sell him on draft day or later. Nobody is saying he's going to bring a ton, but might bring a team in need a greater likelihood of a starter more so than a 5th round pick gives them. I think you're struggling to realize how much DPs are valued in the NFL. If you think a team is giving up a 5th round pick for him, I think you're mistaken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I say we just keep Taylor and have a backup IOL who has had a really good season in the past because we've been spoiled with injuries this season and that 3 million dollars we save would be a lot nicer to not save if we get 8 weeks into the season and don't have a starting caliber IOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I think you're struggling to realize how much DPs are valued in the NFL. If you think a team is giving up a 5th round pick for him, I think you're mistaken. For a man who can come in and start immediately, and might have real motivation to perform, I think potential value is being underestimated is all I am saying. We don't know how the Packers value him, but enough to pay him this year even if he had been healthy possibly. He may be back with us after a hair cut next year. I'm not saying he'd bring a 5th, but even a swap from early to late in the 5th round is indeed value. Maybe it's just me, I like to trade value and barter. I'll gladly share my stolen ham sandwich and bowl of sauerkraut with you, as long as you can supply me with a nice cold pint of lager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I say we just keep Taylor and have a backup IOL who has had a really good season in the past because we've been spoiled with injuries this season and that 3 million dollars we save would be a lot nicer to not save if we get 8 weeks into the season and don't have a starting caliber IOL. If we stack injuries it's obviously an issue, but if we are going to re-sign Bulaga and Bakh in the next 12 months I would probably rather shed the Taylor cap. We're also paying Linsley #8 center money, and starting next year Turner will be top 15 guard money. Taylor saves $4.1m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 How much are GB fans going to freak out if Bulaga leaves, Turner slides to RT, and Taylor slots in at RG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, JBURGE said: If we stack injuries it's obviously an issue, but if we are going to re-sign Bulaga and Bakh in the next 12 months I would probably rather shed the Taylor cap. We're also paying Linsley #8 center money, and starting next year Turner will be top 15 guard money. Taylor saves $4.1m Yea, I think at some point you have to look at how much $ the team is sinking into the OL and try to trim it down. They already rank at #5 in OL spending for 2020 w/o Bulaga and probably #2 w/ Bulaga. It’s luxury-depth at a non-premium position. Is the difference between [0.5yr of Jenkins + 0.5yr of Taylor] and [0.5yr of Jenkins + 0.5yr of replacement-level player] worth $4.5m? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, TransientTexan said: It’s luxury-depth at a non-premium position. It comes down to a talent and depth evaluations. Relative to other positions, sure the OL will take a back seat, but when the OL was getting trampled and run over last year, nobody felt we'd overspent on it. No. We'd let talent walk, were into plug and play situations with lesser skilled players and it showed on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 33 minutes ago, Leader said: when the OL was getting trampled and run over last year, nobody felt we'd overspent on it. They didn’t get trampled that much last year. Probably were a top-10 OL over the course of the season even with the injuries. And it’s not like the money saved on Taylor would just disappear. It’d be used in other ways, so there are tradeoffs. Maybe you can patch a hole in an actual starting position, or combine with other money to make a stronger patch (read ‘more-likely-to-succeed’). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mazrimiv said: How much are GB fans going to freak out if Bulaga leaves, Turner slides to RT, and Taylor slots in at RG? A **** ton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresAGuy Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 On 12/26/2019 at 3:21 PM, FinneasGage said: sullivan been playing high level despite some continuing to proclaim him jag I love players like Sullivan and Lazard, its absolutely insulting to call the production theyve given us as "jag". Sullivan has played better than Josh Jones or Josh Jackson, both second rounders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cakeshoppe Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, HeresAGuy said: I love players like Sullivan and Lazard, its absolutely insulting to call the production theyve given us as "jag". Sullivan has played better than Josh Jones or Josh Jackson, both second rounders what you are forgetting is that "jag" is actually just another way of saying "mid-tier starter" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) No more fumbles. Also, Post Malone at practice, they're probably all hungover and coming down from all their recreational party drugs. NO FOCUS. Edited December 28, 2019 by HighCalebR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoremore Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Cakeshoppe said: what you are forgetting is that "jag" is actually just another way of saying "mid-tier starter" Mid tier starter is more than JAG. I'd consider them pretty good players. JAG is a player easily replaced that shouldn't be a starter. Maybe a guy like Lancaster. Goodson would be another. Allison JAG. Guys playing on vet minimum deals. King and T-Will I'd consider mid level starters. Good solid players. How I see it anyway. Too early to label Sullivan and Lazard. Those guys are intriguing. They may end up being JAG's or something more. Sullivan has certainly flashed. Lazard same deal. Love his toughness. See how they develop in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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