swede700 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: Good point. The people that were trying to justify the Vikings (in)actions to fill the guard positions this offseason by suggesting Reiff could fill in at one guard spot with Samia starting at the other spot have had to slowly come to terms with reality. There's a far larger difference between moving a guy from one left side position to another left side position from changing a guy from one side of the line to the other. I'd make the argument that it's easier to move a guy from LG to LT in 2 weeks (in the case of Cleveland) than it is to move a guy from RT to LT in 2 weeks. Edited August 31, 2020 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, swede700 said: No, it's not a cohesively gelled unit, but even so, you're asking a guy who's started for 2 years on the right side (and only played LT for 1 year at Pitt) to all of a sudden change his footwork in 2 weeks. And? If it’s what the team ends up doing, do you really think they’ll do it without believing that O’Neill can’t do it? And for all we know, O’Neill has been working on his left tackle foot work during the offseason. He played LT at practice the other day and all reports were that he looked very smooth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, swede700 said: There's a far larger difference between moving a guy from one left side position to another left side position from changing a guy from one side of the line to the other. I'd make the argument that it's easier to move a guy from LG to LT in 2 weeks (in the case of Cleveland) than it is to move a guy from RT to LT in 2 weeks. Agreed. I don't think the team is ready to move on from Reiff without seeing something out of someone else that tells them they hvae a viable backup plan. I've read nothing to suggest the team has looked at Cleveland there so I doubt he is that backup plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I'm still surprised they haven't tried Udoh at OG. Which side did he play on in week 17? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, swede700 said: There's a far larger difference between moving a guy from one left side position to another left side position from changing a guy from one side of the line to the other. I'd make the argument that it's easier to move a guy from LG to LT in 2 weeks (in the case of Cleveland) than it is to move a guy from RT to LT in 2 weeks. Why? The footwork and hand placement for guard and tackle are very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: And? If it’s what the team ends up doing, do you really think they’ll do it without believing that O’Neill can’t do it? And for all we know, O’Neill has been working on his left tackle foot work during the offseason. He played LT at practice the other day and all reports were that he looked very smooth. If that's what they do, then that's what they do...but I don't think it's a wise move and we should expect even more issues with the offensive line than we did even a week ago. For me, it'll likely be the 2016 Sam Bradford scenario all over again...and it didn't have to be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, SemperFeist said: Why? The footwork and hand placement for guard and tackle are very different. Cleveland played LT in college for 3 years. It's not like he's forgotten how to play it over 1 summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, swede700 said: There's a far larger difference between moving a guy from one left side position to another left side position from changing a guy from one side of the line to the other. Unsure of what you're saying here, specifically. Is the larger difference moving inside/out or right/left? My reading comprehension has had a five month break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babababa Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, RpMc said: Unsure of what you're saying here, specifically. Is the larger difference moving inside/out or right/left? My reading comprehension has had a five month break. I think he's saying that the footwork and hand placement changes when playing on the left as opposed to the right. It's not an easy transition to make from all I've read, and even if a guy is more than capable of transitioning (like O'Neil) one would think it would take time to retrain and regain the muscle movement/memory. Maybe the argument isn't necessarily whether or not O'Neil can transition with ease, but whether or not they feel Cleveland is ready for the NFL despite having played largely at LT in college. Edited August 31, 2020 by babababa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CriminalMind Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I've been on board with a RR cut for a long while, would be pleased if this ended up being the case. As for who is the starting LT, I'm fine with letting BO & CH fight it out, even if it's just 2 weeks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, CriminalMind said: I've been on board with a RR cut for a long while, would be pleased if this ended up being the case. As for who is the starting LT, I'm fine with letting BO & CH fight it out, even if it's just 2 weeks CH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swede700 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) How are the Falcons on this list? Don't they have like 2 fans on this site. 😂 Edited August 31, 2020 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, CriminalMind said: I've been on board with a RR cut for a long while, would be pleased if this ended up being the case. As for who is the starting LT, I'm fine with letting BO & CH fight it out, even if it's just 2 weeks It’s the right move and frankly would have been supportive of it months ago. Moving O’Neill to LT would seem the best option, especially if Udoh or Hill might be more comfortable at RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I hope they know scary they are doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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