2019 Draft Discussion

[Leader]

AcmePacking Mock Draft:

 

Pick	Team	Player	Position	School	Previous
1	Arizona	Kyler Murray	QB	Oklahoma	No Change
2	San Francisco	Nick Bosa	DE	Ohio State	No Change
3	NY Jets	Josh Allen	OLB	Kentucky	Quinnen Williams
4	Oakland	Quinnen Williams	DT	Alabama	Josh Allen
5	Tampa Bay	Ed Oliver	DT	Houston	Dwayne Haskins
6	NY Giants	Dwayne Haskins	QB	Ohio State	Jawaan Taylor
7	Jacksonville	Jawaan Taylor	OT	Florida	Rashan Gary
8	Detroit	Montez Sweat	DE	Mississippi State	No Change
9	Buffalo	Brian Burns	DE	Florida State	D.K. Metcalf
10	Denver	Drew Lock	QB	Missouri	No Change
11	Cincinnati	Devin White	ILB	LSU	No Change
12	Green Bay	Devin Bush	ILB	Michigan	Brian Burns
13	Miami	Clelin Ferrell	DE	Clemson	No Change
14	Atlanta	Greedy Williams	CB	LSU	No Change
15	Washington	Rashan Gary	DT	Michigan	Garrett Bradbury
16	Carolina	Andre Dillard	OT	Washington State	Jonah Williams
17	NY Giants	D.K. Metcalf	WR	Ole Miss	Johnathan Abram
18	Minnesota	Cody Ford	OT/G	Oklahoma	Ed Oliver
19	Tennessee	Noah Fant	TE	Iowa	No Change
20	Pittsburgh	Chauncey Gardner-Johnson	S	Florida	Devin Bush
21	Seattle	TJ Hockenson	TE	Iowa	No Change
22	Baltimore	Josh Jacobs	RB	Alabama	No Change
23	Houston	Jonah Williams	OT	Alabama	Andre Dillard
24	Oakland	Byron Murphy	CB	Washington	Deandre Baker
25	Philadelphia	Garrett Bradbury	C	NC State	Cody Ford
26	Indianapolis	Christian Wilkins	DT	Clemson	No Change
27	Oakland	Dexter Lawrence	DT	Clemson	No Change
28	LA Chargers	Nasir Adderley	S	Delaware	No Change
29	Kansas City	Deandre Baker	CB	Georgia	Byron Murphy
30	Green Bay	AJ Brown	WR	Ole Miss	Greg Little
31	LA Rams	Dalton Risner	OL	Kansas State	Jaylon Ferguson
32	New England	Jerry Tillery	DT	Notre Dame	No Change

[Chili]

Just working my way down the WR list tonight. I just have to say that J.J. Arcega-Whiteside is a damn good player.

Sure he lacks the speed to make him a truly legit no.1 WR but he compensates in so many other ways. His jump ball and catch radius is elite. He does a great job of boxing out corners. His hands is superb. He shows really good footwork to gain that initial separation. His sense of timing and awareness of where he is on the field is very good. He's very competitive and does all the little things well to maximise his talent. He's consistently drawing flags from opposing corners. He's damn hard to deal with and its not hard to understand cos one look at him and you naturally kinda underestimate him.

He's not going to be a Jordy Nelson in this league but I think he will be a highly productive player on the right team. Not sure it is us though as I feel our offence need a speedier WR to complement Adams and to stretch the field but I wouldn't be against taking him at all in the 2nd or 3rd.

[incognito_man]

14 minutes ago, Leader said:

AcmePacking Mock Draft:

 

Pick	Team	Player	Position	School	Previous
1	Arizona	Kyler Murray	QB	Oklahoma	No Change
2	San Francisco	Nick Bosa	DE	Ohio State	No Change
3	NY Jets	Josh Allen	OLB	Kentucky	Quinnen Williams
4	Oakland	Quinnen Williams	DT	Alabama	Josh Allen
5	Tampa Bay	Ed Oliver	DT	Houston	Dwayne Haskins
6	NY Giants	Dwayne Haskins	QB	Ohio State	Jawaan Taylor
7	Jacksonville	Jawaan Taylor	OT	Florida	Rashan Gary
8	Detroit	Montez Sweat	DE	Mississippi State	No Change
9	Buffalo	Brian Burns	DE	Florida State	D.K. Metcalf
10	Denver	Drew Lock	QB	Missouri	No Change
11	Cincinnati	Devin White	ILB	LSU	No Change
12	Green Bay	Devin Bush	ILB	Michigan	Brian Burns
13	Miami	Clelin Ferrell	DE	Clemson	No Change
14	Atlanta	Greedy Williams	CB	LSU	No Change
15	Washington	Rashan Gary	DT	Michigan	Garrett Bradbury
16	Carolina	Andre Dillard	OT	Washington State	Jonah Williams
17	NY Giants	D.K. Metcalf	WR	Ole Miss	Johnathan Abram
18	Minnesota	Cody Ford	OT/G	Oklahoma	Ed Oliver
19	Tennessee	Noah Fant	TE	Iowa	No Change
20	Pittsburgh	Chauncey Gardner-Johnson	S	Florida	Devin Bush
21	Seattle	TJ Hockenson	TE	Iowa	No Change
22	Baltimore	Josh Jacobs	RB	Alabama	No Change
23	Houston	Jonah Williams	OT	Alabama	Andre Dillard
24	Oakland	Byron Murphy	CB	Washington	Deandre Baker
25	Philadelphia	Garrett Bradbury	C	NC State	Cody Ford
26	Indianapolis	Christian Wilkins	DT	Clemson	No Change
27	Oakland	Dexter Lawrence	DT	Clemson	No Change
28	LA Chargers	Nasir Adderley	S	Delaware	No Change
29	Kansas City	Deandre Baker	CB	Georgia	Byron Murphy
30	Green Bay	AJ Brown	WR	Ole Miss	Greg Little
31	LA Rams	Dalton Risner	OL	Kansas State	Jaylon Ferguson
32	New England	Jerry Tillery	DT	Notre Dame	No Change

3 QBs before us and I still don't like anyone 11-18

[deathstar]

1 hour ago, St Vince said:

To me he's Bruce Irvin 2.0,  I guy who was overhyped because he ran fast at the combine but ended up having a mediocre career.

How do you feel about his production against both the run and pass?

[PossibleCabbage]

44 minutes ago, Isherwood said:

Count me in on the honk if you’re Horny for Tillery bandwagon 

Tillery is my anchor for the #12 guys, if I ask myself "do I take X or Tillery" and the answer is not X then he's not on the table for me before #30.

 

[packfanfb]

38 minutes ago, Leader said:

AcmePacking Mock Draft:

 

Pick	Team	Player	Position	School	Previous
1	Arizona	Kyler Murray	QB	Oklahoma	No Change
2	San Francisco	Nick Bosa	DE	Ohio State	No Change
3	NY Jets	Josh Allen	OLB	Kentucky	Quinnen Williams
4	Oakland	Quinnen Williams	DT	Alabama	Josh Allen
5	Tampa Bay	Ed Oliver	DT	Houston	Dwayne Haskins
6	NY Giants	Dwayne Haskins	QB	Ohio State	Jawaan Taylor
7	Jacksonville	Jawaan Taylor	OT	Florida	Rashan Gary
8	Detroit	Montez Sweat	DE	Mississippi State	No Change
9	Buffalo	Brian Burns	DE	Florida State	D.K. Metcalf
10	Denver	Drew Lock	QB	Missouri	No Change
11	Cincinnati	Devin White	ILB	LSU	No Change
12	Green Bay	Devin Bush	ILB	Michigan	Brian Burns
13	Miami	Clelin Ferrell	DE	Clemson	No Change
14	Atlanta	Greedy Williams	CB	LSU	No Change
15	Washington	Rashan Gary	DT	Michigan	Garrett Bradbury
16	Carolina	Andre Dillard	OT	Washington State	Jonah Williams
17	NY Giants	D.K. Metcalf	WR	Ole Miss	Johnathan Abram
18	Minnesota	Cody Ford	OT/G	Oklahoma	Ed Oliver
19	Tennessee	Noah Fant	TE	Iowa	No Change
20	Pittsburgh	Chauncey Gardner-Johnson	S	Florida	Devin Bush
21	Seattle	TJ Hockenson	TE	Iowa	No Change
22	Baltimore	Josh Jacobs	RB	Alabama	No Change
23	Houston	Jonah Williams	OT	Alabama	Andre Dillard
24	Oakland	Byron Murphy	CB	Washington	Deandre Baker
25	Philadelphia	Garrett Bradbury	C	NC State	Cody Ford
26	Indianapolis	Christian Wilkins	DT	Clemson	No Change
27	Oakland	Dexter Lawrence	DT	Clemson	No Change
28	LA Chargers	Nasir Adderley	S	Delaware	No Change
29	Kansas City	Deandre Baker	CB	Georgia	Byron Murphy
30	Green Bay	AJ Brown	WR	Ole Miss	Greg Little
31	LA Rams	Dalton Risner	OL	Kansas State	Jaylon Ferguson
32	New England	Jerry Tillery	DT	Notre Dame	No Change

Could easily live with this.

[British]

On 4/8/2019 at 6:26 AM, Isherwood said:

Agreed. He’s a great fit, he killed the combine, and I believe we talked to him. He very well could be the #1 RB on Gute’s board, considering Jacobs and Montgomery miss thresholds (assuming you believe in the thresholds). 

Which RB thresholds is Gute supposed to have that Jacobs and Montgomery miss?  Am increasingly interested in RB this year with LeFleur's outside zone needing some decent RB play.

 

[St Vince]

1 hour ago, deathstar said:

How do you feel about his production against both the run and pass?

He's more of a 43 DE.  I haven't seen much coverage skills but he looks decent against the run.

[incognito_man]

I'm cooling on Sweat a bit due to age as well. He will be 23 before he plays a snap in the NFL.

Burns is turning 21 during the draft.

[Joe]

1 hour ago, PossibleCabbage said:

Tillery is my anchor for the #12 guys, if I ask myself "do I take X or Tillery" and the answer is not X then he's not on the table for me before #30.

 

He'd be a reach at 12, but then again, he's not getting past Pittsburgh. Tillery is almost a clone of Tuitt.

[cannondale]

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if that's how the top 11 shakes out. I think I go Ferrell there and hope he can be another ZSmith ...but who knows

[Redt]

Last year I wanted a three player combination of Roquan Smith, Jaire Alexander, and James Washington. I believe this trio is going to be highly productive for years to come and obviously you have to do some wheelin-and-dealin to get this done.

This year my three player combination is Devin White, Andre Dillard, and Deebo Samuel. Just like last year IMO this draft would be transformative.

[cannondale]

18 minutes ago, Redt said:

Last year I wanted a three player combination of Roquan Smith, Jaire Alexander, and James Washington. I believe this trio is going to be highly productive for years to come and obviously you have to do some wheelin-and-dealin to get this done.

This year my three player combination is Devin White, Andre Dillard, and Deebo Samuel. Just like last year IMO this draft would be transformative.

His neck tacking and 100 million dollar mouth turned me off. Seems like he'd be more about his brand than his team. 

[Redt]

3 minutes ago, cannondale said:

His neck tacking and 100 million dollar mouth turned me off. Seems like he'd more about his brand than his team. 

please inform

[cannondale]

10 minutes ago, Redt said:

please inform

If you don't know these things already, then you are just guessing about prospects. Go watch a 'highlight' video and see how many times he tries to head tackle someone. That crap just doesn't fly in the NFL. Then google 'White 100 million'. Seems like Devin is the type that's gonna be all about Devin.